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Old 24 Oct 2005, 06:34 am
Frank Boettcher
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My 1990 Honda Accord has developed a crack in the upper radiator tank
below the fill cap. I'm assuming ( maybe in error) that this is a non
repairable issue and I will have to replace the radiator. Is this
correct?

If so the replacement procedure is to drain, remove both hoses, remove
both fans, and lift it out, put in a new one reassemble fans and
hoses then fill and bleed. Is this correct?

Thanks,

Frank
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Old 24 Oct 2005, 06:42 am
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Default Re: crack in upper radiator tank

Frank Boettcher <fboettcher@comcast.net> wrote in
news:cdhpl191mdc4elf9eui52k8n7sr37o5ktu@4ax.com:

> My 1990 Honda Accord has developed a crack in the upper radiator tank
> below the fill cap. I'm assuming ( maybe in error) that this is a non
> repairable issue and I will have to replace the radiator. Is this
> correct?



Almost 100% of the time, yes. There are expoxy fixes available, but when
you can get quality aftermarket rads for less than $200, it's not worth the
risk.


>
> If so the replacement procedure is to drain, remove both hoses, remove
> both fans, and lift it out, put in a new one reassemble fans and
> hoses then fill and bleed. Is this correct?
>



Might find it easier to leave lower hose and rad fan attached to the rad
until you withdraw the rad. Attach lower hose and fan to new rad before
insertion.

A/C fan can be pushed out of the way. Do not disconnect A/C lines.


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Old 24 Oct 2005, 07:03 am
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On 24 Oct 2005 11:42:13 GMT, "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:

>Frank Boettcher <fboettcher@comcast.net> wrote in
>news:cdhpl191mdc4elf9eui52k8n7sr37o5ktu@4ax.com :
>
>> My 1990 Honda Accord has developed a crack in the upper radiator tank
>> below the fill cap. I'm assuming ( maybe in error) that this is a non
>> repairable issue and I will have to replace the radiator. Is this
>> correct?

>
>
>Almost 100% of the time, yes. There are expoxy fixes available, but when
>you can get quality aftermarket rads for less than $200, it's not worth the
>risk.
>
>
>>
>> If so the replacement procedure is to drain, remove both hoses, remove
>> both fans, and lift it out, put in a new one reassemble fans and
>> hoses then fill and bleed. Is this correct?
>>

>
>
>Might find it easier to leave lower hose and rad fan attached to the rad
>until you withdraw the rad. Attach lower hose and fan to new rad before
>insertion.
>
>A/C fan can be pushed out of the way. Do not disconnect A/C lines.



Thanks,

Age dictates replacement. Don't think I would feel comfortable that a
patch would stand the thermal cycling and pressure.

I'll try that disassembly method. The more I can do outside the
engine compartment the better. These old knarly hands don't always
seem to fit in places they used to.

Frank
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Old 24 Oct 2005, 09:29 am
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Default Re: crack in upper radiator tank

Make sure you have something to plug up the transmission lines as the
fluid will start to leak out. When I replaced them i plugged them up
using a two sharpie markers. Also (I think it's on all Accords from
90-97) you need to keep the A/C fan mounted on the radiator in order
to get both of them out of there. I was playing around with trying to
get the fan out (before pulling the radiator out) for about 1/2hr
before I figured this out.


Nick




On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 06:34:37 -0500, Frank Boettcher
<fboettcher@comcast.net> wrote:

>My 1990 Honda Accord has developed a crack in the upper radiator tank
>below the fill cap. I'm assuming ( maybe in error) that this is a non
>repairable issue and I will have to replace the radiator. Is this
>correct?
>
>If so the replacement procedure is to drain, remove both hoses, remove
>both fans, and lift it out, put in a new one reassemble fans and
>hoses then fill and bleed. Is this correct?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Frank

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Old 24 Oct 2005, 11:09 am
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On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 10:29:26 -0400, Nick
<npolite@NOSPAMMONKEYS.yahoo.com> wrote:

>Make sure you have something to plug up the transmission lines as the
>fluid will start to leak out. When I replaced them i plugged them up
>using a two sharpie markers.


Thanks,

Manual T so no cooler lines to the rad.


Also (I think it's on all Accords from
>90-97) you need to keep the A/C fan mounted on the radiator in order
>to get both of them out of there. I was playing around with trying to
>get the fan out (before pulling the radiator out) for about 1/2hr
>before I figured this out.
>



Both fans can stay on the rad when it comes out?

>
>Nick
>
>
>
>
>On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 06:34:37 -0500, Frank Boettcher
><fboettcher@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>My 1990 Honda Accord has developed a crack in the upper radiator tank
>>below the fill cap. I'm assuming ( maybe in error) that this is a non
>>repairable issue and I will have to replace the radiator. Is this
>>correct?
>>
>>If so the replacement procedure is to drain, remove both hoses, remove
>>both fans, and lift it out, put in a new one reassemble fans and
>>hoses then fill and bleed. Is this correct?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Frank


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Old 24 Oct 2005, 11:15 am
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Default Re: crack in upper radiator tank

When the mechanic pulled my 97 accord radiator, he left the fans on.
Also watch the electrical connections - he buggered up the connector
that turns on the AC clutch. Some of the hoses were a bear to get off.
He had to replace it 3 times - the first 2 radiators from Bumper to
Bumper leaked like sives. Hecho in Mexico.

Found an aftermarket radiator made in Thailand for another accord I
owned - worked well the first time - those Thias have their stuff
together.

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Old 24 Oct 2005, 12:32 pm
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Default Re: crack in upper radiator tank

Also if you need a place to get it from check out
http://www.performanceradiator.com/

I've order 2 from them and they came within a day of ordering them
online. They also have a 3 year warranty on them.

So far after a year and a half no issues!

Nick

On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 11:09:40 -0500, Frank Boettcher
<fboettcher@comcast.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 10:29:26 -0400, Nick
><npolite@NOSPAMMONKEYS.yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Make sure you have something to plug up the transmission lines as the
>>fluid will start to leak out. When I replaced them i plugged them up
>>using a two sharpie markers.

>
>Thanks,
>
>Manual T so no cooler lines to the rad.
>
>
>Also (I think it's on all Accords from
>>90-97) you need to keep the A/C fan mounted on the radiator in order
>>to get both of them out of there. I was playing around with trying to
>>get the fan out (before pulling the radiator out) for about 1/2hr
>>before I figured this out.
>>

>
>
>Both fans can stay on the rad when it comes out?
>
>>
>>Nick
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 06:34:37 -0500, Frank Boettcher
>><fboettcher@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>My 1990 Honda Accord has developed a crack in the upper radiator tank
>>>below the fill cap. I'm assuming ( maybe in error) that this is a non
>>>repairable issue and I will have to replace the radiator. Is this
>>>correct?
>>>
>>>If so the replacement procedure is to drain, remove both hoses, remove
>>>both fans, and lift it out, put in a new one reassemble fans and
>>>hoses then fill and bleed. Is this correct?
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>Frank

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Old 24 Oct 2005, 01:21 pm
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Default Re: crack in upper radiator tank

Kinda pricey at $368 for an 97 accord radiator.

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Old 24 Oct 2005, 07:14 pm
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Frank Boettcher wrote:

> My 1990 Honda Accord has developed a crack in the upper radiator tank
> below the fill cap. I'm assuming ( maybe in error) that this is a non
> repairable issue and I will have to replace the radiator. Is this
> correct?


If the crack doesn't go all the way to where the tank and radiator core
meet, the repair is simple (drain the radiator first) and is best made
by melting a fairly deep groove along the crack with a soldering iron
(clean the tip or cover it with aluminum foil) and then filling it with
fiberglass reinforced nylon rod bought from a radiator supply or GM
dealer. Welding nylon this way gives very strong repairs, and I once
fixed a VW radiator tank that cracked at the hose fitting by melting in
nylon shaved from the tank's reinforcement ribs.

Don't try glue because it doesn't stick well to nylon. Also a crack
that goes all the way to the radiator core may require removing the
tank by prying up the 100+ tabs (careful or some will break) and
getting a new gasket.

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Old 24 Oct 2005, 10:21 pm
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Frank Boettcher wrote:
> My 1990 Honda Accord has developed a crack in the upper radiator tank
> below the fill cap. I'm assuming ( maybe in error) that this is a non
> repairable issue and I will have to replace the radiator. Is this
> correct?
>
> If so the replacement procedure is to drain, remove both hoses, remove
> both fans, and lift it out, put in a new one reassemble fans and
> hoses then fill and bleed. Is this correct?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Frank


replace. a new nissins radiator is very high quality and not very
expensive.

http://www.alleurasianautoparts.com/

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