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My radio/AC/clock lights have gone out or are very dim. Everything works,
radio etc, no lights. Please help.

bprier wrote:
>
> My radio/AC/clock lights have gone out or are very dim. Everything works,
> radio etc, no lights. Please help.


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In article
<1f36db9055fe470109c4ab1c11ee0fac@localhost.talkab outautos.com>,
"bprier" <cprier@comcast.net> wrote:

> My radio/AC/clock lights have gone out or are very dim. Everything works,
> radio etc, no lights. Please help.

Go to dealer. There's a TSB on this. They'll fix it for free.

On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 06:37:49 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

>In article
><1f36db9055fe470109c4ab1c11ee0fac@localhost.talka boutautos.com>,
> "bprier" <cprier@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> My radio/AC/clock lights have gone out or are very dim. Everything works,
>> radio etc, no lights. Please help.
>
>Go to dealer. There's a TSB on this. They'll fix it for free.



If it's still under warranty they will, if not sorry about your
luck!!!!!! Don't ever expect something for nothing.
Chip

chip wrote:

>>> My radio/AC/clock lights have gone out or are very dim. Everything works,
>>> radio etc, no lights. Please help.
>>
>>Go to dealer. There's a TSB on this. They'll fix it for free.
>
> If it's still under warranty they will, if not sorry about your
> luck!!!!!! Don't ever expect something for nothing.
> Chip

A few posters here have had Honda replace it for no cost (except maybe for
labour) even though their warranties had expired. They had to fight like
hell with customer service, but I think Honda has gotten the point. There
should be a TSB for it by now.

The Honda Service Bulletin has been out since June 2004 - # 04-027
Audio-HVAC Display Module is Dim or Dark


High Tech Misfit wrote:
> chip wrote:
>
>
>>>>My radio/AC/clock lights have gone out or are very dim. Everything works,
>>>>radio etc, no lights. Please help.
>>>
>>>Go to dealer. There's a TSB on this. They'll fix it for free.
>>
>> If it's still under warranty they will, if not sorry about your
>>luck!!!!!! Don't ever expect something for nothing.
>> Chip
>
>
> A few posters here have had Honda replace it for no cost (except maybe for
> labour) even though their warranties had expired. They had to fight like
> hell with customer service, but I think Honda has gotten the point. There
> should be a TSB for it by now.

We're not re-starting that misconception that TSB = free-repair again, are
we? TSB (or Service Bulletin) provides directions to the mechanic on how to
troubleshoot and fix a problem. They do not usually authorize a free fix.

On 9/15/05 5:36 AM, in article l8cWe.660$H24.320@fe11.lga, "Al"
<XnospamX@optonline.net> wrote:

> The Honda Service Bulletin has been out since June 2004 - # 04-027
> Audio-HVAC Display Module is Dim or Dark
>
>
> High Tech Misfit wrote:
>> chip wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>> My radio/AC/clock lights have gone out or are very dim. Everything works,
>>>>> radio etc, no lights. Please help.
>>>>
>>>> Go to dealer. There's a TSB on this. They'll fix it for free.
>>>
>>> If it's still under warranty they will, if not sorry about your
>>> luck!!!!!! Don't ever expect something for nothing.
>>> Chip
>>
>>
>> A few posters here have had Honda replace it for no cost (except maybe for
>> labour) even though their warranties had expired. They had to fight like
>> hell with customer service, but I think Honda has gotten the point. There
>> should be a TSB for it by now.

No - we providing Chip information and proof that this is a widespread,
longstanding defect which Honda acknowledged more than a year ago. From
the posts on this newsgroup we know that some dealerships accomodate
their customers on this issue and some don't. This is an obvious
manufacturing defect, not a routine repair or enhancement.



E Meyer wrote:
> We're not re-starting that misconception that TSB = free-repair again, are
> we? TSB (or Service Bulletin) provides directions to the mechanic on how to
> troubleshoot and fix a problem. They do not usually authorize a free fix.
>
> On 9/15/05 5:36 AM, in article l8cWe.660$H24.320@fe11.lga, "Al"
> <XnospamX@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>
>>The Honda Service Bulletin has been out since June 2004 - # 04-027
>>Audio-HVAC Display Module is Dim or Dark
>>
>>
>>High Tech Misfit wrote:
>>
>>>chip wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>My radio/AC/clock lights have gone out or are very dim. Everything works,
>>>>>>radio etc, no lights. Please help.
>>>>>
>>>>>Go to dealer. There's a TSB on this. They'll fix it for free.
>>>>
>>>>If it's still under warranty they will, if not sorry about your
>>>>luck!!!!!! Don't ever expect something for nothing.
>>>> Chip
>>>
>>>
>>>A few posters here have had Honda replace it for no cost (except maybe for
>>>labour) even though their warranties had expired. They had to fight like
>>>hell with customer service, but I think Honda has gotten the point. There
>>>should be a TSB for it by now.
>
>

NO to no. TSBs still do NOT equal free repair/replacement as much as I wish
it were different.

I've been affected by several TSBs over 21 years of owning 3 Preludes (all
widespread, longstanding defects, acknowledged by Honda, and appeared to be
manufacturing/design defects right down to singling out only one of the two
manufactures of that part). I was able to work around all but the last one
inexpensively on my own (no thanks to the a** of a local Honda dealer which
will not get any more service work, TB changes, etc from me). And ever
since Honda squelched Alldata, it's been a royal pain copying TSBs at NHTSA
headquarters in DC after finding summaries on their website.

So yes, it is up to each service manager (and zone office) as to whether ANY
"good will" is provided towards a TSB repair, even when the customer has
receipts showing the repair history at that dealer/location for 21 years!

J.

"Al" <XnospamX@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:9tmWe.720$H24.159@fe11.lga...
> No - we providing Chip information and proof that this is a widespread,
> longstanding defect which Honda acknowledged more than a year ago. From
> the posts on this newsgroup we know that some dealerships accomodate their
> customers on this issue and some don't. This is an obvious manufacturing
> defect, not a routine repair or enhancement.
>
>
>
> E Meyer wrote:
>> We're not re-starting that misconception that TSB = free-repair again,
>> are
>> we? TSB (or Service Bulletin) provides directions to the mechanic on how
>> to
>> troubleshoot and fix a problem. They do not usually authorize a free fix.
>>
>> On 9/15/05 5:36 AM, in article l8cWe.660$H24.320@fe11.lga, "Al"
>> <XnospamX@optonline.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>The Honda Service Bulletin has been out since June 2004 - # 04-027
>>>Audio-HVAC Display Module is Dim or Dark
>>>
>>>
>>>High Tech Misfit wrote:
>>>
>>>>chip wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>My radio/AC/clock lights have gone out or are very dim. Everything
>>>>>>>works,
>>>>>>>radio etc, no lights. Please help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Go to dealer. There's a TSB on this. They'll fix it for free.
>>>>>
>>>>>If it's still under warranty they will, if not sorry about your
>>>>>luck!!!!!! Don't ever expect something for nothing.
>>>>> Chip
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>A few posters here have had Honda replace it for no cost (except maybe
>>>>for
>>>>labour) even though their warranties had expired. They had to fight
>>>>like
>>>>hell with customer service, but I think Honda has gotten the point.
>>>>There
>>>>should be a TSB for it by now.
>>

I'll see your No and raise you a No. Chip's post said his 03 Accord had
30,000 miles. That this would be a warranty fix was never part of the
question. I provided the information to Chip so that he would not get
snookered by his service writer.

J. wrote:
> NO to no. TSBs still do NOT equal free repair/replacement as much as I
> wish it were different.
>
> I've been affected by several TSBs over 21 years of owning 3 Preludes
> (all widespread, longstanding defects, acknowledged by Honda, and
> appeared to be manufacturing/design defects right down to singling out
> only one of the two manufactures of that part). I was able to work
> around all but the last one inexpensively on my own (no thanks to the
> a** of a local Honda dealer which will not get any more service work, TB
> changes, etc from me). And ever since Honda squelched Alldata, it's
> been a royal pain copying TSBs at NHTSA headquarters in DC after finding
> summaries on their website.
>
> So yes, it is up to each service manager (and zone office) as to whether
> ANY "good will" is provided towards a TSB repair, even when the customer
> has receipts showing the repair history at that dealer/location for 21
> years!
>
> J.
>
> "Al" <XnospamX@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:9tmWe.720$H24.159@fe11.lga...
>
>> No - we providing Chip information and proof that this is a
>> widespread, longstanding defect which Honda acknowledged more than a
>> year ago. From the posts on this newsgroup we know that some
>> dealerships accomodate their customers on this issue and some don't.
>> This is an obvious manufacturing defect, not a routine repair or
>> enhancement.
>>
>>
>>
>> E Meyer wrote:
>>
>>> We're not re-starting that misconception that TSB = free-repair
>>> again, are
>>> we? TSB (or Service Bulletin) provides directions to the mechanic on
>>> how to
>>> troubleshoot and fix a problem. They do not usually authorize a free
>>> fix.
>>>
>>> On 9/15/05 5:36 AM, in article l8cWe.660$H24.320@fe11.lga, "Al"
>>> <XnospamX@optonline.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> The Honda Service Bulletin has been out since June 2004 - # 04-027
>>>> Audio-HVAC Display Module is Dim or Dark
>>>>