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nospam@nospam.com wrote:
> Not very related to the topic....but here's a good information that I
> got from a very experienced member on my civic forum........
>
> Provided by Zzyzx of 7thgencivic.com
>
> heres a quick summary:
>
> 1. Cross drilled rotors DO NOTHING to improve braking or Reduceing
> Brake Fade.
> 2. Cryogenically Treating Rotors does nothing.
> 3. Changing the rear drums to Disks may actually Hinder braking.

only if the proportioning valve is not changed. and from what i can
gather from the number of "conversion kits" available that do not
include one, this seems to be the norm.

> 4. Big Brake Kits in the front (Only) may also Hinder Braking.

see above. any change in braking config requires the correct
proportioning valve.

> 5. Big brake kits can wreak havoc on ABS systems causing a measurable
> increase in stoping distance.
> 6. your tires may be the most important part of your braking system
> (After all you can only stop as quickly as your tires will let you).
>
>

> EBC greenstuff --> sucked, POS

You get what you pay for. The EBC greenstuff pads are totally OK for
street use. Ive been using them on most of my cars and the car is sold
and buildt, and its worth it for stock replacement. Nothing more. For
track use i only use Endless pads.

> 1. Cross drilled rotors DO NOTHING to improve braking or Reduceing Brake
> Fade.

Not true. The purpose of crossdrilling isn't to increase brake grip,
its to cool the brakesystem and prevent overheating. If the brakesystem
overheats it will reduce the brakeeffect and brakeresponse.

> 2. Cryogenically Treating Rotors does nothing.

Also not true. Even tho its a waste of money, it does reduce pad and
disc wear. I wouldn't say its nearly enough to actually bother doing
it.

> 3. Changing the rear drums to Disks may actually Hinder braking.

This is generalizing. In some cases yes, it may infact reduce braking
because your brake booster and master cylinder isn't set up for it, and
doesn't have the proper volume to compensate for the extra fluid pushed
around.

> 4. Big Brake Kits in the front (Only) may also Hinder Braking.

Same as above.

> 5. Big brake kits can wreak havoc on ABS systems causing a measurable
> increase in stoping distance.

This is true! The problem isnt the bigbrakes, its the ABS. ABS in
general reduces the stopping power of the brakesystem, but improves
handling when braking. Track guys disable or remove ABS for this
purpose.

> 6. your tires may be the most important part of your braking system
> (After all you can only stop as quickly as your tires will let you).

Also true! The tires are 40 percent of the brakesystem. You can have
the best brakesystem in the world, and it wont matter a bit if you dont
have the tires to support it.


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^nice responce....

Maybe I should ask the guy who posted those points again regarding your
reply...im also curious about the truth of those points..

btw, in what car are you using the EBC greenstuff?

I apologize firsthand about it first....my opinion is more the fact
we're facing when they're installed on 7thgencivic......they just
sucked...making many problems.....


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