Honda Car Forum

SoCalMike wrote:

> Jason wrote:
>> I think that we can all agree that Honda and Toyota both make cars that
>> are far superior to any of the cars made my GM and Ford.
>
> or chrysler, whos biggest seller is the bloated pimpmobile 300. do they
> offer a vinyl roof kit and whitewalls for that thing yet?

Pimpmobile is an accurate term. It looks like a Cadillac.

In article <OOCdnax5yOpg3QffRVn-rQ@comcast.com>,
SoCalMike <mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Jason wrote:
> > I think that we can all agree that Honda and Toyota both make cars that
> > are far superior to any of the cars made my GM and Ford.
>
> or chrysler, whos biggest seller is the bloated pimpmobile 300. do they
> offer a vinyl roof kit and whitewalls for that thing yet?

I'll never forget many years ago seeing a Cressida on the Toyota
dealer's lot, full of vinyl roof kit and wire wheels and whitewalls. I
had to ask; it seems that they did the car up for a customer who never
returned, so they stuck it out there to see what they could do with it.

I didn't ask if the work was paid for or if the dealership did it on
spec; I wasn't going to put them in that position, because I got the
feeling they did it on spec. Poor bastards.

"jim beam" <nospam@example.net> wrote in message
news:6qadnWNnqaAkVwXfRVn-rw@speakeasy.net...
> >
> >
> > There are exceptions to every rule. I agree--Honda should have solved
this
> > problem before they put that same defective transmission in the 99 Honda
> > Accord 6 cyld. cars. Honda dropped the ball. My neighbor has a 99 Honda
6
> > cyld. Accord. I have not told them about the problem since it would just
> > cause them to worry. Do you know whether or not Honda is replacing those
> > transmissions for free? if so, I will tell them in case their
transmission
> > develops problems. I am glad that I have the 4 cyld. version of the same
> > car instead of the 6 cyld.
> >
> which about the same time honda took the decision to drop all hatchbacks
> here in the u.s., make the civic macpherson strut and adopt red rear
> turn signal lenses - one of the DUMBEST things i have ever seen. oh,
> and make the accord have twin pipes coming out of the rear despite the
> fact that there's only pipe coming under the car.
>
> whatever my pet peeves, honda have come under a lot of criticism from
> the financial analysts for their civic decison - it basically handed the
> substantial "enthusiast" market to subaru on a plate with
> correspondingly disasterous drops in sales. when's the last time you
> saw an rsx, the macpherson "integra"? and toyota have taken a lot of
> honda's family sedan market because of the transmission problems you cite.
>
> honda used to be run by car enthusiasts. now, it seems to be run by
> bean counters who think cosmetic garbage and engineering short cuts are
> the way to make money. wrong honda, wrong. that's ford/g.m.'s game. i
> used to buy honda because they were well made, well engineered, sporty
> little cars. if i was in the market for a new car today, i'd buy toyota
> or nissan. or subaru.


Here's an article I wrote 3 years ago that flowed the same thread.



Too bad...what happened to the days when the Civic was all about an
automobile
that was derived from racing inspired genes. Don't the car company know that
the been counters are only about the short term profit?? BMW, Mercedes, GM
are
the kind of car company that are
careful about protecting their roots. New roots are going to have be grown,
and
since cars are generally alot more reliable when compared to the past, it
shouldn't be difficult for a car company like Hyundai to build something
sporting and economical that only cost about 12k. All they have to do is
copy
the CRX.


Pars

Pars wrote:
> "jim beam" <nospam@example.net> wrote in message
> news:6qadnWNnqaAkVwXfRVn-rw@speakeasy.net...
>
>>>
>>>There are exceptions to every rule. I agree--Honda should have solved
>
> this
>
>>>problem before they put that same defective transmission in the 99 Honda
>>>Accord 6 cyld. cars. Honda dropped the ball. My neighbor has a 99 Honda
>
> 6
>
>>>cyld. Accord. I have not told them about the problem since it would just
>>>cause them to worry. Do you know whether or not Honda is replacing those
>>>transmissions for free? if so, I will tell them in case their
>
> transmission
>
>>>develops problems. I am glad that I have the 4 cyld. version of the same
>>>car instead of the 6 cyld.
>>>
>>
>>which about the same time honda took the decision to drop all hatchbacks
>>here in the u.s., make the civic macpherson strut and adopt red rear
>>turn signal lenses - one of the DUMBEST things i have ever seen. oh,
>>and make the accord have twin pipes coming out of the rear despite the
>>fact that there's only pipe coming under the car.
>>
>>whatever my pet peeves, honda have come under a lot of criticism from
>>the financial analysts for their civic decison - it basically handed the
>>substantial "enthusiast" market to subaru on a plate with
>>correspondingly disasterous drops in sales. when's the last time you
>>saw an rsx, the macpherson "integra"? and toyota have taken a lot of
>>honda's family sedan market because of the transmission problems you cite.
>>
>>honda used to be run by car enthusiasts. now, it seems to be run by
>>bean counters who think cosmetic garbage and engineering short cuts are
>>the way to make money. wrong honda, wrong. that's ford/g.m.'s game. i
>>used to buy honda because they were well made, well engineered, sporty
>>little cars. if i was in the market for a new car today, i'd buy toyota
>>or nissan. or subaru.
>
>
>
> Here's an article I wrote 3 years ago that flowed the same thread.
>
>
>
> Too bad...what happened to the days when the Civic was all about an
> automobile
> that was derived from racing inspired genes. Don't the car company know that
> the been counters are only about the short term profit?? BMW, Mercedes, GM
> are
> the kind of car company that are
> careful about protecting their roots. New roots are going to have be grown,
> and
> since cars are generally alot more reliable when compared to the past, it
> shouldn't be difficult for a car company like Hyundai to build something
> sporting and economical that only cost about 12k. All they have to do is
> copy
> the CRX.
>
>
> Pars
>
>
missing link!

"jim beam" <nospam@example.net> wrote in message
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> Pars wrote:
> > "jim beam" <nospam@example.net> wrote in message
> > news:6qadnWNnqaAkVwXfRVn-rw@speakeasy.net...
> >
> >>>
> >>>There are exceptions to every rule. I agree--Honda should have solved
> >
> > this
> >
> >>>problem before they put that same defective transmission in the 99
Honda
> >>>Accord 6 cyld. cars. Honda dropped the ball. My neighbor has a 99 Honda
> >
> > 6
> >
> >>>cyld. Accord. I have not told them about the problem since it would
just
> >>>cause them to worry. Do you know whether or not Honda is replacing
those
> >>>transmissions for free? if so, I will tell them in case their
> >
> > transmission
> >
> >>>develops problems. I am glad that I have the 4 cyld. version of the
same
> >>>car instead of the 6 cyld.
> >>>
> >>
> >>which about the same time honda took the decision to drop all hatchbacks
> >>here in the u.s., make the civic macpherson strut and adopt red rear
> >>turn signal lenses - one of the DUMBEST things i have ever seen. oh,
> >>and make the accord have twin pipes coming out of the rear despite the
> >>fact that there's only pipe coming under the car.
> >>
> >>whatever my pet peeves, honda have come under a lot of criticism from
> >>the financial analysts for their civic decison - it basically handed the
> >>substantial "enthusiast" market to subaru on a plate with
> >>correspondingly disasterous drops in sales. when's the last time you
> >>saw an rsx, the macpherson "integra"? and toyota have taken a lot of
> >>honda's family sedan market because of the transmission problems you
cite.
> >>
> >>honda used to be run by car enthusiasts. now, it seems to be run by
> >>bean counters who think cosmetic garbage and engineering short cuts are
> >>the way to make money. wrong honda, wrong. that's ford/g.m.'s game. i
> >>used to buy honda because they were well made, well engineered, sporty
> >>little cars. if i was in the market for a new car today, i'd buy toyota
> >>or nissan. or subaru.
> >
> >
> >
> > Here's an article I wrote 3 years ago that flowed the same thread.
> >
> >
> >
> > Too bad...what happened to the days when the Civic was all about an
> > automobile
> > that was derived from racing inspired genes. Don't the car company know
that
> > the been counters are only about the short term profit?? BMW, Mercedes,
GM
> > are
> > the kind of car company that are
> > careful about protecting their roots. New roots are going to have be
grown,
> > and
> > since cars are generally alot more reliable when compared to the past,
it
> > shouldn't be difficult for a car company like Hyundai to build something
> > sporting and economical that only cost about 12k. All they have to do is
> > copy
> > the CRX.
> >
> >
> > Pars
> >
> >
> missing link!
>

I did a cut and paste the acutal article (as per above). But here's the
link...

http://groups.google.ca/group/rec.au...987a1d0babffcf

Pars