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Old 16 May 2005, 06:22 pm
R. P.
 
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Default Honda/Accura model similarities

I wonder which Accura models are most similar to a Honda Accord LX and
EX models in a sense of most part commonalities. I also wonder what
price premium one must pay for the corresponding Accura model over the
Honda model. Any of you guys researched this before?

Rudy

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Old 16 May 2005, 07:10 pm
Jason
 
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Default Re: Honda/Accura model similarities

In article <B-ydnW5qSbK0thTfRVn-pw@comcast.com>, "R. P."
<r_pol12gar@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I wonder which Accura models are most similar to a Honda Accord LX and
> EX models in a sense of most part commonalities. I also wonder what
> price premium one must pay for the corresponding Accura model over the
> Honda model. Any of you guys researched this before?
>
> Rudy


I have read some articles in car magazines on this subject. They are very
similar and even have some of the same parts. In most cases, the Acura
models are slightly better than the Accord models.

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Old 16 May 2005, 11:11 pm
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Default Re: Honda/Accura model similarities

R. P. wrote:
> I wonder which Accura models are most similar to a Honda Accord LX and
> EX models in a sense of most part commonalities. I also wonder what
> price premium one must pay for the corresponding Accura model over the
> Honda model. Any of you guys researched this before?
>
> Rudy



in europe, there is no such thing as acura- theyre all branded as honda.
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Old 17 May 2005, 12:26 am
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Default Re: Honda/Accura model similarities


R. P. wrote:
> I wonder which Accura models are most similar to a Honda Accord LX

and
> EX models in a sense of most part commonalities. I also wonder what
> price premium one must pay for the corresponding Accura model over

the
> Honda model. Any of you guys researched this before?
>
> Rudy


Acura TL is the only one similar to any Honda car, and it is basically
a fancy Accord. $10,000 extra, more or less, over what you can
negotiate an EX V-6 for. Worth it? Depends on you. How badly do you
want to impress your neighbors? How badly do you want a car made in
Japan? How small a trunk can you tolerate? What is your tolerance for
expensive replacement tires? As the man said, if you have to ask, you
probably can't afford it. I could, but still chose the 2004 EX V-6.
Fine car.

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Old 17 May 2005, 01:10 am
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Default Re: Honda/Accura model similarities



R. P. wrote:
> I wonder which Accura models are most similar to a Honda Accord LX and
> EX models in a sense of most part commonalities. I also wonder what
> price premium one must pay for the corresponding Accura model over the
> Honda model. Any of you guys researched this before?


There was a time when the Integra was based on an older Civic
platform. The Acura versions always had a stiffer suspension and
the engine choices were always more powerful (at least until the
'98 Civic Si). There was no Acura equivalent for the del Sol.

Of course some of the basic assembly parts are similar. But for
the most part, the offerings with the Acura nameplate were very
different than those with Honda. I don't think there's ever been
an identical engine in an Acura and Honda, save the Acura EL sold
in Canada, which was essentially an upscale, rebadged Civic. For
the most part the Acura "equivalent" always offered more power
and/or better handling for the premium price.

Honda didn't play the game that Toyota did with Lexus, or that
Nissan did with Infiniti. The Lexus ES300 had the same V6 that
went into a Camry. The LX470 is pretty much a Land Cruiser (which
is plenty luxurious). Nissan is rebadging some of their cars like
GM would do with Cadillac.

I used to buy some basic parts for my '95 Integra GS-R at a Honda
dealer. This would be things like bolts, seals, washers, filters,
etc. However - the Acura nameplate at least almost always means
something different.
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Old 17 May 2005, 12:11 pm
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Default Re: Honda/Accura model similarities

In article <1Vfie.1819$X92.1175@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink. net>, y_p_w
<y_p_w@hotmail.com> wrote:

> R. P. wrote:
> > I wonder which Accura models are most similar to a Honda Accord LX and
> > EX models in a sense of most part commonalities. I also wonder what
> > price premium one must pay for the corresponding Accura model over the
> > Honda model. Any of you guys researched this before?

>
> There was a time when the Integra was based on an older Civic
> platform. The Acura versions always had a stiffer suspension and
> the engine choices were always more powerful (at least until the
> '98 Civic Si). There was no Acura equivalent for the del Sol.
>
> Of course some of the basic assembly parts are similar. But for
> the most part, the offerings with the Acura nameplate were very
> different than those with Honda. I don't think there's ever been
> an identical engine in an Acura and Honda, save the Acura EL sold
> in Canada, which was essentially an upscale, rebadged Civic. For
> the most part the Acura "equivalent" always offered more power
> and/or better handling for the premium price.
>
> Honda didn't play the game that Toyota did with Lexus, or that
> Nissan did with Infiniti. The Lexus ES300 had the same V6 that
> went into a Camry. The LX470 is pretty much a Land Cruiser (which
> is plenty luxurious). Nissan is rebadging some of their cars like
> GM would do with Cadillac.
>
> I used to buy some basic parts for my '95 Integra GS-R at a Honda
> dealer. This would be things like bolts, seals, washers, filters,
> etc. However - the Acura nameplate at least almost always means
> something different.


Hello,
You made some great points. I just wanted to add that many of the same
engines used in Acura cars are eventually used in Honda cars. For example,
I own a 1999 Accord (4 cyld.). I was under the false impression that the
type of engine in car was first used in the 1998 Accord (4 cyld.). I later
found out the identical type engine in my 1999 Accord was first used in
the 1996 Acura CL.
Jason

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Old 17 May 2005, 07:27 pm
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<jmattis@attglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1116307607.500497.72850@z14g2000cwz.googlegro ups.com...
>
> R. P. wrote:
>> I wonder which Accura models are most similar to a Honda Accord LX

> and
>> EX models in a sense of most part commonalities. I also wonder what
>> price premium one must pay for the corresponding Accura model over

> the
>> Honda model. Any of you guys researched this before?
>>
>> Rudy

>
> Acura TL is the only one similar to any Honda car, and it is basically
> a fancy Accord. $10,000 extra, more or less, over what you can
> negotiate an EX V-6 for. Worth it? Depends on you. How badly do you
> want to impress your neighbors? How badly do you want a car made in
> Japan? How small a trunk can you tolerate? What is your tolerance for
> expensive replacement tires? As the man said, if you have to ask, you
> probably can't afford it. I could, but still chose the 2004 EX V-6.
> Fine car.


I though the TSX was the Euro Accord Sedan and the RSX was the Coupe?

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Old 17 May 2005, 08:17 pm
SoCalMike
 
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Default Re: Honda/Accura model similarities

y_p_w wrote:
>
>
> R. P. wrote:
>
>> I wonder which Accura models are most similar to a Honda Accord LX and
>> EX models in a sense of most part commonalities. I also wonder what
>> price premium one must pay for the corresponding Accura model over the
>> Honda model. Any of you guys researched this before?

>
>
> There was a time when the Integra was based on an older Civic
> platform. The Acura versions always had a stiffer suspension and
> the engine choices were always more powerful (at least until the
> '98 Civic Si). There was no Acura equivalent for the del Sol.
>
> Of course some of the basic assembly parts are similar. But for
> the most part, the offerings with the Acura nameplate were very
> different than those with Honda. I don't think there's ever been
> an identical engine in an Acura and Honda, save the Acura EL sold
> in Canada, which was essentially an upscale, rebadged Civic. For


which they should have offered in the USA. especially on the hatchback
model. a luxury hatch with an acura engine? sweet!

> the most part the Acura "equivalent" always offered more power
> and/or better handling for the premium price.
>
> Honda didn't play the game that Toyota did with Lexus, or that
> Nissan did with Infiniti. The Lexus ES300 had the same V6 that
> went into a Camry. The LX470 is pretty much a Land Cruiser (which
> is plenty luxurious). Nissan is rebadging some of their cars like
> GM would do with Cadillac.


which is one reason they arent exactly setting sales records. some, like
the lexus IS300 are otherwise only sold in japan, and are really nice cars.

is there a lexus equivalent to the toyota avalon? just curious. its
always been kind of an "odd duck", being the fanciest toyota in a
near-lexus price range.
>
> I used to buy some basic parts for my '95 Integra GS-R at a Honda
> dealer. This would be things like bolts, seals, washers, filters,
> etc. However - the Acura nameplate at least almost always means
> something different.

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Old 17 May 2005, 08:18 pm
SoCalMike
 
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Default Re: Honda/Accura model similarities

Seth wrote:
>
> I though the TSX was the Euro Accord Sedan and the RSX was the Coupe?


yup. i think.

and the vigor was a 5 cylinder euro accord. i think.
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Old 17 May 2005, 08:31 pm
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SoCalMike wrote:

>> Of course some of the basic assembly parts are similar. But for
>> the most part, the offerings with the Acura nameplate were very
>> different than those with Honda. I don't think there's ever been
>> an identical engine in an Acura and Honda, save the Acura EL sold
>> in Canada, which was essentially an upscale, rebadged Civic. For

>
> which they should have offered in the USA. especially on the hatchback
> model. a luxury hatch with an acura engine? sweet!


The EL is only available as a 4-door sedan with the 127-hp VTEC engine.
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