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"SoCalMike" <mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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wrote:

>
> which they should have offered in the USA. especially on the hatchback
> model. a luxury hatch with an acura engine? sweet!

Sounds like the Si, pretty nice interior with the k20a3, only Civic with a k
series engine which was essentially the Acura RSX powerplant. People just
don't get this car, it's really pretty cool on so many levels.

>>>>> Seth writes:

s> I though the TSX was the Euro Accord Sedan and the RSX was the Coupe?

Not quite. Take a look at the Japanese lineup:

http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/

You can put your mouse over the pictures to get the English link
names. I think the current mapping goes somewhat like this:

Japan -> US
-----------------------------
Honda Integra -> Acura RSX
Honda Accord -> Acura TSX
Honda Inspire -> Honda Accord
Honda Legend -> Acura RL
Honda MDX -> Acura MDX
Honda NSX -> Acura NSX

I think the Acura TL has no direct Honda equivalent. Also, it's not
an exact mapping since there are variations in engines and interiors.
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MAT wrote:
> "SoCalMike" <mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:2fKdndeN9dZXChffRVn-pw@comcast.com...
> wrote:
>
>
>>which they should have offered in the USA. especially on the hatchback
>>model. a luxury hatch with an acura engine? sweet!
>
>
> Sounds like the Si, pretty nice interior with the k20a3, only Civic with a k
> series engine which was essentially the Acura RSX powerplant. People just
> don't get this car, it's really pretty cool on so many levels.
>
>
i didnt really get it myself. yes, its nice. definately not cheap, made
in england, and i still havent gotten used to the edgy styling on all
the latest gen civics.

"Guardsman" <spear@net.invalid> wrote in message
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>>>>>> Seth writes:
>
> s> I though the TSX was the Euro Accord Sedan and the RSX was the Coupe?
>
> Not quite. Take a look at the Japanese lineup:
>
> http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/
>
> You can put your mouse over the pictures to get the English link
> names. I think the current mapping goes somewhat like this:
>
> Japan -> US
> -----------------------------
> Honda Integra -> Acura RSX
> Honda Accord -> Acura TSX
> Honda Inspire -> Honda Accord
> Honda Legend -> Acura RL
> Honda MDX -> Acura MDX
> Honda NSX -> Acura NSX
>
> I think the Acura TL has no direct Honda equivalent. Also, it's not
> an exact mapping since there are variations in engines and interiors.

OK, so it looks like I was right about the TSX=Accord Sedan.

Here in the USA we don't have a Honda Integra. Maybe I was right (in
regards to USA models) about the RSX being the same as our Accord Coupe.

Seth wrote:

> Here in the USA we don't have a Honda Integra. Maybe I was right (in
> regards to USA models) about the RSX being the same as our Accord Coupe.

I don't think so. The RSX is a fair bit smaller than the Accord Coupe.

"S.S." <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> Seth wrote:
>
>> Here in the USA we don't have a Honda Integra. Maybe I was right (in
>> regards to USA models) about the RSX being the same as our Accord Coupe.
>
> I don't think so. The RSX is a fair bit smaller than the Accord Coupe.

Someone emailed me saying it is based on the Civic platform.

Jason wrote:
> In article <1Vfie.1819$X92.1175@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink. net>,
y_p_w
> <y_p_w@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > R. P. wrote:
> > > I wonder which Accura models are most similar to a Honda Accord
LX and
> > > EX models in a sense of most part commonalities. I also wonder
what
> > > price premium one must pay for the corresponding Accura model
over the
> > > Honda model. Any of you guys researched this before?
> >
> > There was a time when the Integra was based on an older Civic
> > platform. The Acura versions always had a stiffer suspension and
> > the engine choices were always more powerful (at least until the
> > '98 Civic Si). There was no Acura equivalent for the del Sol.
> >
> > Of course some of the basic assembly parts are similar. But for
> > the most part, the offerings with the Acura nameplate were very
> > different than those with Honda. I don't think there's ever been
> > an identical engine in an Acura and Honda, save the Acura EL sold
> > in Canada, which was essentially an upscale, rebadged Civic. For
> > the most part the Acura "equivalent" always offered more power
> > and/or better handling for the premium price.
> >
> > Honda didn't play the game that Toyota did with Lexus, or that
> > Nissan did with Infiniti. The Lexus ES300 had the same V6 that
> > went into a Camry. The LX470 is pretty much a Land Cruiser (which
> > is plenty luxurious). Nissan is rebadging some of their cars like
> > GM would do with Cadillac.
> >
> > I used to buy some basic parts for my '95 Integra GS-R at a Honda
> > dealer. This would be things like bolts, seals, washers, filters,
> > etc. However - the Acura nameplate at least almost always means
> > something different.
>
> Hello,
> You made some great points. I just wanted to add that many of the
same
> engines used in Acura cars are eventually used in Honda cars. For
example,
> I own a 1999 Accord (4 cyld.). I was under the false impression that
the
> type of engine in car was first used in the 1998 Accord (4 cyld.). I
later
> found out the identical type engine in my 1999 Accord was first used
in
> the 1996 Acura CL.
> Jason

Now that I think of it, they did overlap that particular 2.2L inline
4 - selling the same engine in the 2.2CL and the Accord. However -
they had a considerably different 3.0 L V6 for the CL. I think that
CL may have also had an Acura specific valve cover. All Acura cars
had Honda on the engine block for some time.

I believe that CL was just a stopgap, but not what Toyota and Nissan
keep on doing to this day.