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Old 12 Apr 2005, 05:12 pm
Zakatak
 
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Default 1990 Civic Power Loss and Shudders

I have a 1990 Honda Civic 4 door with 196k. The car has been running great.
The car now seems to have a power loss at low rpm and jerks and shudders
untill about 3000 rpm when it will kick back in and perform. I have
changed the fuel filter, have new plugs, wires, dist/cap/rotor and all my
vac lines appear in good shape. Anybody delt with this please drop a line.

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Old 12 Apr 2005, 08:08 pm
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"Zakatak" <zakatak23831@yahoo.com> wrote in
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> I have a 1990 Honda Civic 4 door with 196k. The car has been running
> great. The car now seems to have a power loss at low rpm and jerks and
> shudders untill about 3000 rpm when it will kick back in and perform.
> I have changed the fuel filter, have new plugs, wires, dist/cap/rotor
> and all my vac lines appear in good shape. Anybody delt with this
> please drop a line.
>
>



EGR valve sticking open?

Oh, Terry, where are you?!

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Old 12 Apr 2005, 09:59 pm
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Default Re: 1990 Civic Power Loss and Shudders

Zakatak wrote:
> I have a 1990 Honda Civic 4 door with 196k. The car has been running great.
> The car now seems to have a power loss at low rpm and jerks and shudders
> untill about 3000 rpm when it will kick back in and perform. I have
> changed the fuel filter, have new plugs, wires, dist/cap/rotor and all my
> vac lines appear in good shape. Anybody delt with this please drop a line.
>

try the thermostat. it you're still on the original, it'll almost
certainly be out of spec. by now. mine was & changing it removed
symptoms like you describe. also check the operation of the throttle
body's tandem valve.

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Old 13 Apr 2005, 10:41 am
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Zakatak wrote:
> I have a 1990 Honda Civic 4 door with 196k. The car has been running great.
> The car now seems to have a power loss at low rpm and jerks and shudders
> untill about 3000 rpm when it will kick back in and perform. I have
> changed the fuel filter, have new plugs, wires, dist/cap/rotor and all my
> vac lines appear in good shape. Anybody delt with this please drop a line.



-------------------------

What's the details on your timing belt . . It sounds like it's off a
tooth or two. Is it better once the engine warms up, or just the same?

'Curly'

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Old 13 Apr 2005, 02:43 pm
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Not sure about the timing belt. That is something that I don't have
knowledge of. The two other posts metioned EGR and Tandem Valves. The
tandem appears to be fine but I can't locate the EGR.

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Old 13 Apr 2005, 02:44 pm
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Where is the EGR on this car? Guess I should buy another Haynes manuel.

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Old 13 Apr 2005, 05:01 pm
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Default Re: 1990 Civic Power Loss and Shudders

Zakatak wrote:
> Not sure about the timing belt. That is something that I don't have
> knowledge of. The two other posts metioned EGR and Tandem Valves. The
> tandem appears to be fine but I can't locate the EGR.
>


Where are you located? I think a lot of US models from that vintage do
not have the EGR if they are not California models. Possibly one trim
line does have it regardless of being a Cali model, maybe the STD (hatch
only trim). I'm not sure though. My '91 Si does not have an EGR valve.

Mark
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Old 13 Apr 2005, 06:27 pm
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On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:59:08 -0700, jim beam <nospam@example.net>
wrote:

>Zakatak wrote:
>> I have a 1990 Honda Civic 4 door with 196k. The car has been running great.
>> The car now seems to have a power loss at low rpm and jerks and shudders
>> untill about 3000 rpm when it will kick back in and perform. I have
>> changed the fuel filter, have new plugs, wires, dist/cap/rotor and all my
>> vac lines appear in good shape. Anybody delt with this please drop a line.
>>

>try the thermostat. it you're still on the original, it'll almost
>certainly be out of spec. by now. mine was & changing it removed
>symptoms like you describe. also check the operation of the throttle
>body's tandem valve.


Also, check to make sure that the timing advance mechanisms in the
distributer are working properly.

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Old 13 Apr 2005, 09:01 pm
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Chopface <thename_is_slick@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:d3k4s9$htp$1@news.doit.wisc.edu:

> Zakatak wrote:
>> Not sure about the timing belt. That is something that I don't have
>> knowledge of. The two other posts metioned EGR and Tandem Valves. The
>> tandem appears to be fine but I can't locate the EGR.
>>

>
> Where are you located? I think a lot of US models from that vintage do
> not have the EGR if they are not California models.




The automatic had EGR, the manual did not. True for all states and Canada.



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Old 13 Apr 2005, 09:05 pm
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gRmEcMgOrVeEw@mindspring.com (Gordon McGrew) wrote in
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> On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:59:08 -0700, jim beam <nospam@example.net>
> wrote:
>
>>Zakatak wrote:
>>> I have a 1990 Honda Civic 4 door with 196k. The car has been running
>>> great. The car now seems to have a power loss at low rpm and jerks
>>> and shudders untill about 3000 rpm when it will kick back in and
>>> perform. I have changed the fuel filter, have new plugs, wires,
>>> dist/cap/rotor and all my vac lines appear in good shape. Anybody
>>> delt with this please drop a line.
>>>

>>try the thermostat. it you're still on the original, it'll almost
>>certainly be out of spec. by now. mine was & changing it removed
>>symptoms like you describe. also check the operation of the throttle
>>body's tandem valve.

>
> Also, check to make sure that the timing advance mechanisms in the
> distributer are working properly.
>
>




You mean like vacuum advance and centrifugal weights? Ain't no such thing
in the '90 Civic.

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