Honda Car Forum

Hi there,

Got my sister's car with the CEL on, she doesn't
maintain it that well... All of the ignition
stuff looked wore out, so I replaced Cap, rotor,
Wires, and plugs. However, the light came back
on.

What is the procedure to check for the ECU
trouble code if I don't have a scanning tool?

Any other ideas other than checking the code
that I may have overlooked?

t

On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 10:14:27 -0500, disallow <> wrote:
>Hi there,

>Got my sister's car with the CEL on, she doesn't
>maintain it that well... All of the ignition
>stuff looked wore out, so I replaced Cap, rotor,
>Wires, and plugs. However, the light came back
>on.

>What is the procedure to check for the ECU
>trouble code if I don't have a scanning tool?
RTFSM (Read the ****ing shop manual )

Visit a dealer and read their ****ing shop manual if you don't have a copy.

HEY ASShole. I have the '****ing' shop
manual, and i read it. It sure tells me how to
scan the code if I have an OBDII tool. I don't
have one of those, so i am asking the nice people
on this forum for some input. So go take a long
walk off a short pier, OK? Dumbass.

Anybody else with something useful to say?

t

"disallow" <loewen_t at yahoo.ca @> wrote in
news:3d6f6c0906514003976c7762a2d0bd37@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com:

> Hi there,
>
> Got my sister's car with the CEL on, she doesn't
> maintain it that well... All of the ignition
> stuff looked wore out, so I replaced Cap, rotor,
> Wires, and plugs. However, the light came back
> on.
>
> What is the procedure to check for the ECU
> trouble code if I don't have a scanning tool?
>
> Any other ideas other than checking the code
> that I may have overlooked?
>


The #1 most common reason for the MIL to come on is an insufficiently
tightened gas cap. It has to click at least three times. If the light has
come on for that reason, it will go off within a few drive cycles.

With your car, you *MUST* read that code before wasting enormous amounts of
money and time. OBD-II error codes cover a couple of hundred different
problems (and that's just the Federally-mandated ones), and blindly
replacing parts without knowing the code is not wise at all.

Have a look at the list here:
http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/error....html#standard

The code can only be read with a scan tool. If you're in the States,
AutoZone will do it for free. If you're in Canada, call around to various
garages and get quotes on having the code read. It takes only a few
minutes.

If I were you, I'd get the dealer to do it if you haven't got a trusted
garage. They're most likely to know what commonly causes your error.


--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

I thought there was a way to jumper the service
connector and watch the CEL flashes to determine
the codes being thrown. Am I mistaken?

t

"disallow" <loewen_t at yahoo.ca @> wrote in
news:cf4d8b35bace8d66f877bd0aab16e299@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com:

> I thought there was a way to jumper the service
> connector and watch the CEL flashes to determine
> the codes being thrown. Am I mistaken?
>


Not after 1995, unless someone has information I haven't got.

For pre-'96, see here:
http://www.iequus.com/assets/manuals..._E_14JAN03.pdf



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TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
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On 2/14/05 5:36 PM, in article Xns95FDBDCB3F4A2teggeratistop@207.14.113.17,
"TeGGer®" <tegger@istop.c0m> wrote:

> "disallow" <loewen_t at yahoo.ca @> wrote in
> news:cf4d8b35bace8d66f877bd0aab16e299@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com:
>
>> I thought there was a way to jumper the service
>> connector and watch the CEL flashes to determine
>> the codes being thrown. Am I mistaken?
>>
>
>
> Not after 1995, unless someone has information I haven't got.
>
> For pre-'96, see here:
> http://www.iequus.com/assets/manuals..._E_14JAN03.pdf
>
>

The circuit to make it blink out codes is still in there, at least according
to the FSM for the 99-00 Acura TL. Pin 1 in the diagnostic connector is the
SCS line. The blink codes are listed in the book. It says it will blink
them out if the SCS line is jumped by the Honda PGM tool. What it doesn't
tell is what line it has to be jumped to in order to activate it.

The 96 and 97 accord (and odyssey too) have the jumper also, I guess to
phase people in for a little while. The service manual should give both
procedures for troubleshooting. (with scantool and without).

>
> Not after 1995, unless someone has information I haven't got.
>
> For pre-'96, see here:
> http://www.iequus.com/assets/manuals..._E_14JAN03.pdf
>
>
>
> --
> TeGGeR®
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

"E. Meyer" <e52.meyer@ieee.org> wrote in
news:BE36AC7F.C11AE%e52.meyer@ieee.org:


> The circuit to make it blink out codes is still in there, at least
> according to the FSM for the 99-00 Acura TL. Pin 1 in the diagnostic
> connector is the SCS line. The blink codes are listed in the book.
> It says it will blink them out if the SCS line is jumped by the Honda
> PGM tool.



Now *that's* the kind of info I'm looking for!

What does the PGM tool look like? (Don't tell me it's a paper clip!)

--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

The sketch in the FSM looks like a digital multimeter (a screen, a square
keyboard array under the screen and a data cable coming out the bottom).


On 2/14/05 7:33 PM, in article Xns95FDD18A7724Eteggeratistop@207.14.113.17,
"TeGGer®" <tegger@istop.c0m> wrote:

> "E. Meyer" <e52.meyer@ieee.org> wrote in
> news:BE36AC7F.C11AE%e52.meyer@ieee.org:
>
>
>> The circuit to make it blink out codes is still in there, at least
>> according to the FSM for the 99-00 Acura TL. Pin 1 in the diagnostic
>> connector is the SCS line. The blink codes are listed in the book.
>> It says it will blink them out if the SCS line is jumped by the Honda
>> PGM tool.
>
>
>
> Now *that's* the kind of info I'm looking for!
>
> What does the PGM tool look like? (Don't tell me it's a paper clip!)