Honda Car Forum

On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 18:07:45 +0000 (UTC), Timothy Kong
<kong@darwin.ece.ucdavis.edu> wrote:

>Our '04 Accord makes a crunching sound when going over speedbumps. The
>dealer says it's a leaking strut and will be replaced. The sound started
>when the car was a few months old. Everything else about the car was great.
>Can you trash Honda quality because of one bad part?

Of course not. But I have been accustomed to NO repairs on 2 prior
Accord leases. The only time those cars saw a service station in 3
years was for oil changes.

But my 2002 was not so lucky, needing work on the front end, new
brakes all around, and a new transmission. That's why I was wondering
if this time around it might be worth considering a different car.
I've been way too spoiled with my zero problem Accords

On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 16:40:47 GMT, "Seth"
<seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:

>"DaveR" <NOSPAM_drubin@NOSPAM_i-2000.com> wrote in message
>news:W6UDQrPwLd6dCQ16BDd6TeP1exOJ@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 04:28:31 GMT, "PMS" <pms65@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Early pad wear is a result of the TCS, turn it off and you will find that
>>>the pads last longer and the car performs better.
>>
>> How do you turn it off? It seems TCS comes on automatically when
>> needed, i.e. when the car is skidding.
>>
>> I have on occasion turned it on manually when driving in slippery
>> conditions, but otherwise I let the car deal with it.
>
>The TCS button turns it off.

When I press the TCS button the dashboard light comes on. So I assume
TCS is OFF by default.

The only other time the TCS dashboard light comes on is when I'm
skidding.

"Gerald Fay" <gejfay_____remove___@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> In article <646dnTOLNN14WJ7fRVn-sA@comcast.com>,
> mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com says...
>> pontiac vibe. same vehicle, and GM gives pretty good discounts and APRs.
>> course, then the OP would have the stigma of driving a "GM POS". scion
>> doesnt deal, but theyre priced well to begin with. dunno what costco,
>> autobytel or AAA might offer on toyotas or hondas, but worth a shot
>>
> My GM POS went for 10 years and 100,000 miles without anything except an
> oil change and a new set of tires. During that time I forgot the
> dealership had moved!!
>
> Hope my Honda POS does the same

It will easily go three times that distance.

DaveR wrote:
> But my 2002 was not so lucky, needing work on the front end, new
> brakes all around, and a new transmission. That's why I was wondering
> if this time around it might be worth considering a different car.
> I've been way too spoiled with my zero problem Accords

if i was in your situation, id consider a scion/toyota/lexus. theres
gotta be somthing in one of those brands thatll meet your
needs/style/price range. id still stay away from nissans or mazdas.

"DaveR" <NOSPAM_drubin@NOSPAM_i-2000.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 16:40:47 GMT, "Seth"
> <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>"DaveR" <NOSPAM_drubin@NOSPAM_i-2000.com> wrote in message
>>news:W6UDQrPwLd6dCQ16BDd6TeP1exOJ@4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 04:28:31 GMT, "PMS" <pms65@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Early pad wear is a result of the TCS, turn it off and you will find
>>>>that
>>>>the pads last longer and the car performs better.
>>>
>>> How do you turn it off? It seems TCS comes on automatically when
>>> needed, i.e. when the car is skidding.
>>>
>>> I have on occasion turned it on manually when driving in slippery
>>> conditions, but otherwise I let the car deal with it.
>>
>>The TCS button turns it off.
>
> When I press the TCS button the dashboard light comes on. So I assume
> TCS is OFF by default.

It's on by default. The light is a reminder that it is disabled.

> The only other time the TCS dashboard light comes on is when I'm
> skidding.

The flashing TCS light means it is actively working on an issue (skidding).

Have you look in the manual? It is clearly spelled out.

"SoCalMike" <mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7IadncGsncmhMJ7fRVn-2Q@comcast.com...
> DaveR wrote:
> > But my 2002 was not so lucky, needing work on the front end, new
> > brakes all around, and a new transmission. That's why I was wondering
> > if this time around it might be worth considering a different car.
> > I've been way too spoiled with my zero problem Accords
>
> if i was in your situation, id consider a scion/toyota/lexus. theres
> gotta be somthing in one of those brands thatll meet your
> needs/style/price range. id still stay away from nissans or mazdas.

Ditto that but how is the pricing of Toyotas (like Camrys or Tacomas) in
your area compared to Hondas (like the Accord)?

Zelk wrote:
> "SoCalMike" <mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:7IadncGsncmhMJ7fRVn-2Q@comcast.com...
>
>>DaveR wrote:
>>
>>>But my 2002 was not so lucky, needing work on the front end, new
>>>brakes all around, and a new transmission. That's why I was wondering
>>>if this time around it might be worth considering a different car.
>>>I've been way too spoiled with my zero problem Accords
>>
>>if i was in your situation, id consider a scion/toyota/lexus. theres
>>gotta be somthing in one of those brands thatll meet your
>>needs/style/price range. id still stay away from nissans or mazdas.
>
>
> Ditto that but how is the pricing of Toyotas (like Camrys or Tacomas) in
> your area compared to Hondas (like the Accord)?
>
>
pretty comparable. no real dealing going on, like the "domestic"
manufacturers. one option if the OP likes the toyota matrix would be the
pontiac vibe. same vehicle, and GM gives pretty good discounts and APRs.
course, then the OP would have the stigma of driving a "GM POS". scion
doesnt deal, but theyre priced well to begin with. dunno what costco,
autobytel or AAA might offer on toyotas or hondas, but worth a shot

In article <646dnTOLNN14WJ7fRVn-sA@comcast.com>,
mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com says...
> pontiac vibe. same vehicle, and GM gives pretty good discounts and APRs.
> course, then the OP would have the stigma of driving a "GM POS". scion
> doesnt deal, but theyre priced well to begin with. dunno what costco,
> autobytel or AAA might offer on toyotas or hondas, but worth a shot
>
My GM POS went for 10 years and 100,000 miles without anything except an
oil change and a new set of tires. During that time I forgot the
dealership had moved!!

Hope my Honda POS does the same

--
jerry

My advice is to take a serious look at the new GM models for a few
reasons: Honda quality is in a uncontrollable spin due to high volume
requirements, GM has been topping quality lists lately, not the
Japanese makers, Honda insurance rates are skyrocketing due to the
teens with the civics, GM fuel mileage tends to be better than Accord
(Malibu, even Impala beats it - both nice cars). Right now GM, not
Honda is near the top of the quality satisfaction rating. In luxury
markets this translates to Cadillac stealing top three spots over
Lexus! Check it out for yourself: http://www.jdpowers.com



DaveR <NOSPAM_drubin@NOSPAM_i-2000.com> wrote in message news:<hgkBQqcFm4flk0XsbTipqVWeAsIT@4ax.com>...
> My lease is nearly up on my 2002 Accord. I've been leasing accords for
> 8 years now. But this last one had some issues ... it needed a new
> transmission (and even the new one is showing some early symptoms of
> trouble). The brakes also wore down at about 25K, earlier than any
> other Accord I have owned (though I can't be sure it wasn't my
> driving).
>
> I've been a loyal Accord driver for many years ... any reason not to
> consider the 2005 model? Has Honda finally fixed the Accord
> transmission problems?

hunkman wrote:
> My advice is to take a serious look at the new GM models for a few
> reasons: Honda quality is in a uncontrollable spin due to high volume
> requirements, GM has been topping quality lists lately, not the
> Japanese makers, Honda insurance rates are skyrocketing due to the
> teens with the civics, GM fuel mileage tends to be better than Accord
> (Malibu, even Impala beats it - both nice cars). Right now GM, not
> Honda is near the top of the quality satisfaction rating. In luxury
> markets this translates to Cadillac stealing top three spots over
> Lexus! Check it out for yourself: http://www.jdpowers.com

too bad its not a valid addy.

i did find these, though:

http://www.jdpower.com/cc/auto/jdpa_...Cavalier+Sedan

http://www.jdpower.com/cc/auto/jdpa_...el=Civic+Sedan

http://www.jdpower.com/cc/auto/jdpa_...l=Focus+4-door