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I have a '91 Civic with the 4-speed that seems to have excessive
side-to-side play in it. This can't be a sign of anything good, but what IS
the problem?

Thanks!
Dave

"Dave Wick" <davewick@new.rr.com> wrote in
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> I have a '91 Civic with the 4-speed that seems to have excessive
> side-to-side play in it. This can't be a sign of anything good, but
> what IS the problem?
>


Worn bushings.

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"TeGGer®" <tegger@istop.c0m> wrote in message
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> "Dave Wick" <davewick@new.rr.com> wrote in
> news:wHEKd.230080$ye4.70242@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com:
>
>> I have a '91 Civic with the 4-speed that seems to have excessive
>> side-to-side play in it. This can't be a sign of anything good, but
>> what IS the problem?
>>
>
>
> Worn bushings.
>
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> TeGGeR®
>
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Can the bushings be replaced with the tranny in place by going through the
shifter hole?

Mike

On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 04:55:56 GMT, "Dave Wick" <davewick@new.rr.com>
wrote:

>I have a '91 Civic with the 4-speed that seems to have excessive
>side-to-side play in it. This can't be a sign of anything good, but what IS
>the problem?

At the bottom of the shift lever, under the leather cover is a set of
bushings. They're external to the gearbox and a dealer can sell you a
set of new ones for not too much. They're a little hard to get at
since they're right above the exhaust pipe, but nothing you can't fix
yourself with a little patience.

"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in
news:ctOdnbkfCrBTDGbcRVn-qw@sedona.net:

> "TeGGer®" <tegger@istop.c0m> wrote in message
> news:Xns95ED33A5D4643teggeratistop@207.14.113.17.. .
>> "Dave Wick" <davewick@new.rr.com> wrote in
>> news:wHEKd.230080$ye4.70242@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com:
>>
>>> I have a '91 Civic with the 4-speed that seems to have excessive
>>> side-to-side play in it. This can't be a sign of anything good, but
>>> what IS the problem?
>>>
>>
>>
>> Worn bushings.
>>
>> --
>> TeGGeR®
>>
>> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
>> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
>
> Can the bushings be replaced with the tranny in place by going through
> the shifter hole?



All the bushings are done from underneath. I've only ever done the shifter
ones. For the shifter one (which causes a buzzing in 2nd and 4th), remove
the bolt, turn the lever 90deg, and have at it.

The bushings elsewhere I've never done, so I don't know how hard it is.
It's those other ones that cause a vagueness (more than usual, that is) in
the shifter's feel.

Here's a scan from the factory manual, in case it helps:
http://tegger.com/hondafaq/misc/91-teg_shift-asm.jpg

My shifter bushings are making noise now, and I plan to replace them in the
spring, with photos.

BTW, my PCV valve has recently stopped clicking when the hose is squeezed,
but there's no oil being pumped anywhere yet. I wonder if it's stuck open?
I've been having a bit of a problem with a rough idle in cold weather and
this may be the cause. Next oil change I'm swapping it for new. Photos
soon!


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worn O rings in the shifter, usually the heat from the cat. converter melts
them, esp. after the heat shield falls off.

Easiest cure would be a new shifter and shifter bushings.

I have a 91 STD Civic I'm junking out, dunno how good the parts are.


"Dave Wick" <davewick@new.rr.com> wrote in message
news:wHEKd.230080$ye4.70242@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> I have a '91 Civic with the 4-speed that seems to have excessive
> side-to-side play in it. This can't be a sign of anything good, but what
IS
> the problem?
>
> Thanks!
> Dave
>
>

"TeGGer®" <tegger@istop.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns95EDB3EB16667teggeratistop@207.14.113.17.. .
> My shifter bushings are making noise now, and I plan to replace them in
> the
> spring, with photos.
>
That's a good plan. The photos should be quieter than the bushings ever
were.

Mike

On 1/29/2005 11:17 PM Michael Pardee spake these words of knowledge:

> "TeGGer®" <tegger@istop.c0m> wrote in message
> news:Xns95EDB3EB16667teggeratistop@207.14.113.17.. .
>> My shifter bushings are making noise now, and I plan to replace them in
>> the
>> spring, with photos.
>>
> That's a good plan. The photos should be quieter than the bushings ever
> were.
>
> Mike
>


Thanks, Mike; I got a good chuckle out of that one.


RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
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Dave Wick wrote:
> I have a '91 Civic with the 4-speed that seems to have excessive
> side-to-side play in it. This can't be a sign of anything good, but what IS
> the problem?

The bushings in the shifter wear out. You can also get urethane linkage
bushings from Summit Racing to firm things up.

-Pete