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Old 20 Nov 2004, 02:45 pm
Crunchy Cookie
 
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Default Stiff/sticky throttle

(Um, as an Accord owner, do I have the right to post general questions that
apply to other cars?)

I just bought a 98 240SX SE off Ebay. A little buyer's remorse here -- not
as exciting as expected, a tad noisy, and not much different than my 95
200SX SE-R. Eh...

One problem that I can't forgive is a really sticky throttle. It takes a
SHOVE to get the throttle to move from rest, which results in too much
off-the-line acceleration. I noticed an unusually high amount of resistance
is built into the first inch or so of travel. Is it supposed to be like
this? How can I fix it?

Thanks...


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Old 20 Nov 2004, 07:03 pm
Elmo P. Shagnasty
 
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Default Re: Stiff/sticky throttle

In article <29Nnd.111770$bk1.65692@fed1read05>,
"Crunchy Cookie" <LSC400@Yahoo.com> wrote:

> One problem that I can't forgive is a really sticky throttle. It takes a
> SHOVE to get the throttle to move from rest, which results in too much
> off-the-line acceleration. I noticed an unusually high amount of resistance
> is built into the first inch or so of travel. Is it supposed to be like
> this? How can I fix it?


Well, if this were a Honda, I'd recommend cleaning the throttle body.
This is a known problem with Hondas, and certainly this is worth a try
on your Nissan.

Get some throttle body cleaner (specifically!) and a rag. Take the
intake hose off your throttle body, get the rag damp with cleaner, and
get in there and start cleaning. You may even spray some in there to
get it a bit wet.

When this is done, your car will run rough as it runs the cleaner
residue through the engine.

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Old 20 Nov 2004, 11:25 pm
jim beam
 
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Default Re: Stiff/sticky throttle

just press the pedal before you start the car to free it up, then start
& drive as normal. if it's still sticking after that, you have other
issues that need fixing.

Crunchy Cookie wrote:
> (Um, as an Accord owner, do I have the right to post general questions that
> apply to other cars?)
>
> I just bought a 98 240SX SE off Ebay. A little buyer's remorse here -- not
> as exciting as expected, a tad noisy, and not much different than my 95
> 200SX SE-R. Eh...
>
> One problem that I can't forgive is a really sticky throttle. It takes a
> SHOVE to get the throttle to move from rest, which results in too much
> off-the-line acceleration. I noticed an unusually high amount of resistance
> is built into the first inch or so of travel. Is it supposed to be like
> this? How can I fix it?
>
> Thanks...
>
>


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Old 21 Nov 2004, 09:58 am
JerryR
 
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Default Re: Stiff/sticky throttle

jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote in message news:<4JmdnaA9R7EvhT3cRVn-uw@comcast.com>...
> just press the pedal before you start the car to free it up, then start
> & drive as normal. if it's still sticking after that, you have other
> issues that need fixing.
>
> Crunchy Cookie wrote:
> > (Um, as an Accord owner, do I have the right to post general questions that
> > apply to other cars?)
> >
> > I just bought a 98 240SX SE off Ebay. A little buyer's remorse here -- not
> > as exciting as expected, a tad noisy, and not much different than my 95
> > 200SX SE-R. Eh...
> >
> > One problem that I can't forgive is a really sticky throttle. It takes a
> > SHOVE to get the throttle to move from rest, which results in too much
> > off-the-line acceleration. I noticed an unusually high amount of resistance
> > is built into the first inch or so of travel. Is it supposed to be like
> > this? How can I fix it?


Cookie.
Try cleaning inside the throttle body, excessive gum and varnish
builds up in the area and causes a problem just like the one you
describe. I've run across this problem on few fuel injected cars.
Hope this helps.
JerryR
> >
> > Thanks...
> >
> >

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Old 21 Nov 2004, 06:25 pm
Crunchy Cookie
 
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Default Re: Stiff/sticky throttle

>> One problem that I can't forgive is a really stiff/sticky throttle. It
>> takes a
>> SHOVE to get the gas pedal to move from rest, which results in too much
>> off-the-line acceleration. I noticed an unusually high amount of
>> resistance
>> is built into the first inch or so of travel. Is it supposed to be like
>> this? How can I fix it?


"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-138AAA.19030620112004@text.usenetserver.com...
> Well, if this were a Honda, I'd recommend cleaning the throttle body.
> This is a known problem with Hondas, and certainly this is worth a try
> on your Nissan.
>
> Get some throttle body cleaner (specifically!) and a rag. Take the
> intake hose off your throttle body, get the rag damp with cleaner, and
> get in there and start cleaning. You may even spray some in there to
> get it a bit wet.
>
> When this is done, your car will run rough as it runs the cleaner
> residue through the engine.


"JerryR" <yjrybano2spam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:fad358f6.0411210658.30075629@posting.google.c om...
> Cookie.
> Try cleaning inside the throttle body, excessive gum and varnish
> builds up in the area and causes a problem just like the one you
> describe. I've run across this problem on few fuel injected cars.
> Hope this helps.
> JerryR


Ahh thanks. Once again I have to go to the Honda group to get an answer to
a Nissan question.

The apathetic guy at the dealership said I should just "follow the throttle
cable" to where it ends (meaning that thing on the engine you can crank by
hand, I guess) and WD-40 that part. Did that; didn't do anything. So you
guys are saying it's not the cable at all, but crap inside the throttle body
itself.


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Old 21 Nov 2004, 07:08 pm
TeGGer®
 
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Default Re: Stiff/sticky throttle

"Crunchy Cookie" <LSC400@Yahoo.com> sprach im
news:qt9od.121299$bk1.91549@fed1read05:


> Ahh thanks. Once again I have to go to the Honda group to get an
> answer to a Nissan question.
>
> The apathetic guy at the dealership said I should just "follow the
> throttle cable" to where it ends (meaning that thing on the engine you
> can crank by hand, I guess) and WD-40 that part. Did that; didn't do
> anything. So you guys are saying it's not the cable at all, but crap
> inside the throttle body itself.
>



Yep.

While you're in there, check your crankcase breather for the presence of
oil. In the absence of oil, the throttle body will acquire a thin skin of
dry black soot that doesn't do much harm. If oil is being pumped through
the breather into the intake, this will mix with the soot and create a
gummy substance that will stick up the throttle.

If you discover oil coming from the crankcase breather, your PCV valve is
plugged.

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The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
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Old 21 Nov 2004, 08:25 pm
Elmo P. Shagnasty
 
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Default Re: Stiff/sticky throttle

In article <qt9od.121299$bk1.91549@fed1read05>,
"Crunchy Cookie" <LSC400@Yahoo.com> wrote:

> So you
> guys are saying it's not the cable at all, but crap inside the throttle body
> itself.


yeah. This is a big time problem on Accords, for sure. Well known.

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Old 22 Nov 2004, 12:07 am
E. Meyer
 
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Default Re: Stiff/sticky throttle

On 11/20/04 1:45 PM, in article 29Nnd.111770$bk1.65692@fed1read05, "Crunchy
Cookie" <LSC400@Yahoo.com> wrote:

> (Um, as an Accord owner, do I have the right to post general questions that
> apply to other cars?)
>
> I just bought a 98 240SX SE off Ebay. A little buyer's remorse here -- not
> as exciting as expected, a tad noisy, and not much different than my 95
> 200SX SE-R. Eh...
>
> One problem that I can't forgive is a really sticky throttle. It takes a
> SHOVE to get the throttle to move from rest, which results in too much
> off-the-line acceleration. I noticed an unusually high amount of resistance
> is built into the first inch or so of travel. Is it supposed to be like
> this? How can I fix it?
>
> Thanks...
>
>

I've had this same problem come up on a '91 240sx and a '96 I30. Take off
the air intake tube (which is way more involved than it need to be) and
clean the air intake on the throttle body. It gets sticky around the
butterfly and that is what is making the pedal hard to move the first time
you push it every day.

You might also want to take a look at the FAQ on http://www.240sx.org/ It
covers in one way or another pretty much everything you will encounter.

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Old 24 Nov 2004, 09:26 pm
Crunchy Cookie
 
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Default Re: Stiff/sticky throttle

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-39513A.20250321112004@text.usenetserver.com...
> In article <qt9od.121299$bk1.91549@fed1read05>,
> "Crunchy Cookie" <LSC400@Yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > So you
> > guys are saying it's not the cable at all, but crap inside the throttle body
> > itself.

>
> yeah. This is a big time problem on Accords, for sure. Well known.


Ok. Just thought I'd mention that I just remembered this problem happening on
our 2000 Accord this year. But it's a more occasional thing, somehow.


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