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Old 10 Sep 2004, 04:29 pm
Craig
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Default Factors to consider when ordering Accord Hybrid?

Hi Folks:

This is my first post here. I am considering ordering the '05 Accord
Hybrid. Some dealerships here in San Diego are taking orders on a
waiting list with a refundable $500 deposit. I have never pre-ordered
a car before like this. Are there any factors you would recommend I
consider in doing this?

One of the things I am mulling over is wondering which options I want.
I am assuming that I will need to have all of these "finalized" at the
time I order since there won't necessarily be any more Accord Hybrids
available for some time if I decide I don't want a particular option
that came with the particular Hybrid I ordered. But "finalizing" this
is made more difficult bc I've been told the new catelog for optional
features for the Hybrid Accord isn't yet available. Any suggestions?

thanks,
Craig
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Old 10 Sep 2004, 04:36 pm
Elmo P. Shagnasty
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Default Re: Factors to consider when ordering Accord Hybrid?

In article <fcd73cf5.0409101329.7671946d@posting.google.com >,
csmith@cts.com (Craig) wrote:

> One of the things I am mulling over is wondering which options I want.
> I am assuming that I will need to have all of these "finalized" at the
> time I order since there won't necessarily be any more Accord Hybrids
> available for some time if I decide I don't want a particular option
> that came with the particular Hybrid I ordered.


The Hybrid will come from the factory one way. Period. Any options you
may want are indeed Honda-brand options, designed specifically for your
car, but are installed after the car leaves the factory--usually at the
dealer (at the time of sale if you want them to have the same warranty
period as the car), but anyone can install them.

So just order the car. The only thing to worry about is color.

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Old 11 Sep 2004, 01:06 am
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On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 17:36:49 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

>In article <fcd73cf5.0409101329.7671946d@posting.google.com >,
> csmith@cts.com (Craig) wrote:
>
>> One of the things I am mulling over is wondering which options I want.
>> I am assuming that I will need to have all of these "finalized" at the
>> time I order since there won't necessarily be any more Accord Hybrids
>> available for some time if I decide I don't want a particular option
>> that came with the particular Hybrid I ordered.

>
>The Hybrid will come from the factory one way. Period. Any options you
>may want are indeed Honda-brand options, designed specifically for your
>car, but are installed after the car leaves the factory--usually at the
>dealer (at the time of sale if you want them to have the same warranty
>period as the car), but anyone can install them.
>
>So just order the car. The only thing to worry about is color.


And price. Has the dealer committed to a price or a percent of MSRP
if prices haven't been announced yet?


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Old 01 Jan 2005, 10:30 am
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Craig wrote:
> Hi Folks:
>
> This is my first post here. I am considering ordering the '05 Accord
> Hybrid. Some dealerships here in San Diego are taking orders on a
> waiting list with a refundable $500 deposit. I have never pre-ordered
> a car before like this. Are there any factors you would recommend I
> consider in doing this?
>
> One of the things I am mulling over is wondering which options I

want.
> I am assuming that I will need to have all of these "finalized" at

the
> time I order since there won't necessarily be any more Accord Hybrids
> available for some time if I decide I don't want a particular option
> that came with the particular Hybrid I ordered. But "finalizing" this
> is made more difficult bc I've been told the new catelog for optional
> features for the Hybrid Accord isn't yet available. Any suggestions?
>
> thanks,
> Craig


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Old 01 Jan 2005, 10:30 am
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Craig wrote:
> Hi Folks:
>
> This is my first post here. I am considering ordering the '05 Accord
> Hybrid. Some dealerships here in San Diego are taking orders on a
> waiting list with a refundable $500 deposit. I have never pre-ordered
> a car before like this. Are there any factors you would recommend I
> consider in doing this?
>
> One of the things I am mulling over is wondering which options I

want.
> I am assuming that I will need to have all of these "finalized" at

the
> time I order since there won't necessarily be any more Accord Hybrids
> available for some time if I decide I don't want a particular option
> that came with the particular Hybrid I ordered. But "finalizing" this
> is made more difficult bc I've been told the new catelog for optional
> features for the Hybrid Accord isn't yet available. Any suggestions?
>
> thanks,
> Craig


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Old 01 Jan 2005, 10:41 am
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I just got an Accord Hybrid from Perry Motors Mark Medora in Bishop.
What a great experience and NO markup and no BS! The drive to LA
yielded 31.5 MPG and the XM and Sat Nav with voice control performed
flawlessly right off the bat.
When you get the Nav you get it all, leather, heated seats, XM, etc. so
the decision is very easy.
I feel like I am driving a BMW 5 series that has the potential to get
37 mpg. Around town I have been getting a steady 30.
By the by Mark will ship the car to you for free!! Perry Motors Inc
(760) 872-4141

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Old 01 Jan 2005, 11:21 am
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The decision is pretty easy. You order the Navigation system, or you
don't. That's it. If you are talking about other options like trunk
liners, mud flaps, etc., they are all dealer installed so you can do
that any time after you get the car. Get the Navigation system. I
love it.

Dick

On 1 Jan 2005 07:30:12 -0800, "stillsman" <stillsman@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>Craig wrote:
>> Hi Folks:
>>
>> This is my first post here. I am considering ordering the '05 Accord
>> Hybrid. Some dealerships here in San Diego are taking orders on a
>> waiting list with a refundable $500 deposit. I have never pre-ordered
>> a car before like this. Are there any factors you would recommend I
>> consider in doing this?
>>
>> One of the things I am mulling over is wondering which options I

>want.
>> I am assuming that I will need to have all of these "finalized" at

>the
>> time I order since there won't necessarily be any more Accord Hybrids
>> available for some time if I decide I don't want a particular option
>> that came with the particular Hybrid I ordered. But "finalizing" this
>> is made more difficult bc I've been told the new catelog for optional
>> features for the Hybrid Accord isn't yet available. Any suggestions?
>>
>> thanks,
>> Craig


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Old 03 Jan 2005, 12:06 am
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"stillsman" <stillsman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> But "finalizing" this
>> is made more difficult bc I've been told the new catelog for optional
>> features for the Hybrid Accord isn't yet available. Any suggestions?
>>


Personally I would not jump on this so fast. There is a very high
probability of these vehicles developing problems with their new systems.
One of the many big questions is how many charge-discharge cycles the
battery packs are going to be good for and what the cost of replacing the
battery packs is going to be. Anyone who has owned a laptop computer and
used is on battery power regularly should know that replacement battery
packs can be very costly.

I for one would not be an early adopter of this technology, especially on a
new application.

John


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Old 03 Jan 2005, 12:38 am
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On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 05:06:12 GMT, "John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>
>"stillsman" <stillsman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:1104593412.651544.267960@z14g2000cwz.googleg roups.com...
>> But "finalizing" this
>>> is made more difficult bc I've been told the new catelog for optional
>>> features for the Hybrid Accord isn't yet available. Any suggestions?
>>>

>
>Personally I would not jump on this so fast. There is a very high
>probability of these vehicles developing problems with their new systems.
>One of the many big questions is how many charge-discharge cycles the
>battery packs are going to be good for and what the cost of replacing the
>battery packs is going to be. Anyone who has owned a laptop computer and
>used is on battery power regularly should know that replacement battery
>packs can be very costly.
>
>I for one would not be an early adopter of this technology, especially on a
>new application.
>
>John


I don't think there is much to worry about. The hybrid Accord is
unlike any other hybrid. It takes the standard V-6 (modified) then
adds a very thin electric motor between the engine and transmission to
assist the gasoline engine when it is called for (IMA). It's only
15 horsepower. The nickle-metal hydride battery pack has an
8-year/80,000 mile warranty. In the meantime, the gasoline engine
runs on 3 or 6 cylinders as the load requires. The Accord never runs
on just the electric motor like other hybrids. However, it does turn
completely off at a stop sign like a golf cart. When you step on the
gas the IMA restarts the V-6 and off you go. If I could afford one I
would order it tomorrow.

Dick

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Dick <LeadWinger> wrote:
> I don't think there is much to worry about. The hybrid Accord is
> unlike any other hybrid.


It is exactly like the other Honda hybrids, and unlike the Toyota and Ford
Hybrids.

> adds a very thin electric motor between the engine and transmission to
> assist the gasoline engine when it is called for (IMA). It's only
> 15 horsepower.


The Honda Civic and Honda Insight have the tiny electric motor
IMA sandwich. It's 13HP in the Civic. I think it's 10 in the Insight.

> In the meantime, the gasoline engine
> runs on 3 or 6 cylinders as the load requires. The Accord never runs
> on just the electric motor like other hybrids.


The Civic runs on one cylinder during deceleration. The gas engine is
running whenever you are moving in the Hondas. It runs most of the time in
my Ford, but not always.

> The nickle-metal hydride battery pack has an
> 8-year/80,000 mile warranty.


My 2003 Civic Hybrid has a 8/80 on the battery. My 2005 Ford Hybrid has
10/150 on the batteries and 8/100 on other Hybrid components, including
the CVT transmission. (California, Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, New
Jersey, New York, Rhode Island, or Vermont.)

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