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Old 09 Sep 2004, 06:47 pm
SoCalMike
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Acertaingirl wrote:

>>>Here's my dilemma (well, not really). My Civic has 2000 miles on it

>>
>>currently,
>>by mid Oct it will have about 3000. I am planning a 3000 mile road trip mid
>>Oct, so I plan to have the oil changed before the trip, rather than after.
>>

>
>
> Better to change after.<<
>
> Actually I was thinking both. Is there any problem with continuing to change
> oil at 3000 mile intervals as I did with my 82 Prelude? I know today's engines
> are different, and I don't want to do any damage (but I'm sure my mechanic who
> I've been dealing with for 20 years would let me know).
>




id hold off on the first one until its broken in, but then do whatever
you want.

me? i go the whole 7500, or yearly (dont drive much) and use mobil1 with
a honda filter.
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Old 09 Sep 2004, 11:13 pm
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3000 mile road trip.. hmm how about getting a oil change during your trip?


"Acertaingirl" <acertaingirl@aol.comforzevon> wrote in message
news:20040909144153.03671.00000389@mb-m04.aol.com...
> >>wait til 7500 miles, but if you have to, just do it every 5k. easy to

> remember.<<
>
> Here's my dilemma (well, not really). My Civic has 2000 miles on it

currently,
> by mid Oct it will have about 3000. I am planning a 3000 mile road trip

mid
> Oct, so I plan to have the oil changed before the trip, rather than after.
>
>
>



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Old 10 Sep 2004, 05:21 am
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>>3000 mile road trip.. hmm how about getting a oil change during your trip?<<

Nope, not in the schedule




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Old 10 Sep 2004, 04:35 pm
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On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 17:47:04 -0400, Abeness <news@nada.x> wrote:

>Milleron wrote:
>> Won't hurt your engine. Will hurt your wallet. It's not so much that
>> modern engines are different as that 3,000-mile drain intervals
>> haven't really been necessary for a long time now.

>
>Wait a sec. Haven't I read here that Honda puts special additives in the
>first batch of oil, and that's why the user manual recommends that the
>first oil change be at 7500 miles? Why ignore the manufacturer
>specification?? As Mike says, highway miles are easy on the engine.
>
>Abe


Abe,
You took this way out of context. The previous poster was asking if
it would hurt to CONTINUE to get oil changes every 3,000 miles [for
the life of the car] as she did with her 82 Prelude. My response had
nothing to do with the FIRST oil change.
Ron
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Old 11 Sep 2004, 05:42 am
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Milleron wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 17:47:04 -0400, Abeness <news@nada.x> wrote:
>
>> Milleron wrote:
>>> Won't hurt your engine. Will hurt your wallet. It's not so much
>>> that modern engines are different as that 3,000-mile drain intervals
>>> haven't really been necessary for a long time now.

>>
>> Wait a sec. Haven't I read here that Honda puts special additives in
>> the first batch of oil, and that's why the user manual recommends
>> that the first oil change be at 7500 miles? Why ignore the
>> manufacturer specification?? As Mike says, highway miles are easy on
>> the engine.
>>
>> Abe

>
> Abe,
> You took this way out of context. The previous poster was asking if
> it would hurt to CONTINUE to get oil changes every 3,000 miles [for
> the life of the car] as she did with her 82 Prelude. My response had
> nothing to do with the FIRST oil change.
> Ron


Ron,

This was Acertaingirl's original enquiry:

"Here's my dilemma (well, not really). My Civic has 2000 miles on it
currently,
by mid Oct it will have about 3000. I am planning a 3000 mile road trip
mid
Oct, so I plan to have the oil changed before the trip, rather than
after."

So the first change was intimately connected with the interval.


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Old 11 Sep 2004, 07:48 pm
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Graham W wrote:
<snip>
>>Abe,
>>You took this way out of context. The previous poster was asking if
>>it would hurt to CONTINUE to get oil changes every 3,000 miles [for
>>the life of the car] as she did with her 82 Prelude. My response had
>>nothing to do with the FIRST oil change.
>>Ron

>
>
> Ron,
>
> This was Acertaingirl's original enquiry:
>
> "Here's my dilemma (well, not really). My Civic has 2000 miles on it
> currently,
> by mid Oct it will have about 3000. I am planning a 3000 mile road trip
> mid
> Oct, so I plan to have the oil changed before the trip, rather than
> after."
>
> So the first change was intimately connected with the interval.


Right--exactly the context, Ron. I just read the top post before I
replied. ;-)

Abe
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Old 12 Sep 2004, 11:43 am
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On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 11:42:15 +0100, "Graham W"
<graham@his.com.puter.INVALID> wrote:

>Milleron wrote:
>> On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 17:47:04 -0400, Abeness <news@nada.x> wrote:
>>
>>> Milleron wrote:
>>>> Won't hurt your engine. Will hurt your wallet. It's not so much
>>>> that modern engines are different as that 3,000-mile drain intervals
>>>> haven't really been necessary for a long time now.
>>>
>>> Wait a sec. Haven't I read here that Honda puts special additives in
>>> the first batch of oil, and that's why the user manual recommends
>>> that the first oil change be at 7500 miles? Why ignore the
>>> manufacturer specification?? As Mike says, highway miles are easy on
>>> the engine.
>>>
>>> Abe

>>
>> Abe,
>> You took this way out of context. The previous poster was asking if
>> it would hurt to CONTINUE to get oil changes every 3,000 miles [for
>> the life of the car] as she did with her 82 Prelude. My response had
>> nothing to do with the FIRST oil change.
>> Ron

>
>Ron,
>
>This was Acertaingirl's original enquiry:
>
>"Here's my dilemma (well, not really). My Civic has 2000 miles on it
>currently,
>by mid Oct it will have about 3000. I am planning a 3000 mile road trip
>mid
>Oct, so I plan to have the oil changed before the trip, rather than
>after."
>
>So the first change was intimately connected with the interval.


Wrong. I replied in line, so that it would be clear that I was
responding to the immediately preceding statement.

Ron
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Old 12 Sep 2004, 03:37 pm
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Milleron wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 11:42:15 +0100, "Graham W"
> <graham@his.com.puter.INVALID> wrote:
>
>> Milleron wrote:
>>> On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 17:47:04 -0400, Abeness <news@nada.x> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Milleron wrote:
>>>>> Won't hurt your engine. Will hurt your wallet. It's not so much
>>>>> that modern engines are different as that 3,000-mile drain
>>>>> intervals haven't really been necessary for a long time now.
>>>>
>>>> Wait a sec. Haven't I read here that Honda puts special additives
>>>> in the first batch of oil, and that's why the user manual
>>>> recommends that the first oil change be at 7500 miles? Why ignore
>>>> the manufacturer specification?? As Mike says, highway miles are
>>>> easy on the engine.
>>>>
>>>> Abe
>>>
>>> Abe,
>>> You took this way out of context. The previous poster was asking if
>>> it would hurt to CONTINUE to get oil changes every 3,000 miles [for
>>> the life of the car] as she did with her 82 Prelude. My response
>>> had nothing to do with the FIRST oil change.
>>> Ron

>>
>> Ron,
>>
>> This was Acertaingirl's original enquiry:
>>
>> "Here's my dilemma (well, not really). My Civic has 2000 miles on it
>> currently,
>> by mid Oct it will have about 3000. I am planning a 3000 mile road
>> trip mid
>> Oct, so I plan to have the oil changed before the trip, rather than
>> after."
>>
>> So the first change was intimately connected with the interval.

>
> Wrong. I replied in line, so that it would be clear that I was
> responding to the immediately preceding statement.


Now you're making excuses.


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Old 12 Sep 2004, 05:52 pm
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On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 21:37:34 +0100, "Graham W"
<graham@his.com.puter.INVALID> wrote:

>Milleron wrote:
>> On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 11:42:15 +0100, "Graham W"
>> <graham@his.com.puter.INVALID> wrote:
>>
>>> Milleron wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 17:47:04 -0400, Abeness <news@nada.x> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Milleron wrote:
>>>>>> Won't hurt your engine. Will hurt your wallet. It's not so much
>>>>>> that modern engines are different as that 3,000-mile drain
>>>>>> intervals haven't really been necessary for a long time now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wait a sec. Haven't I read here that Honda puts special additives
>>>>> in the first batch of oil, and that's why the user manual
>>>>> recommends that the first oil change be at 7500 miles? Why ignore
>>>>> the manufacturer specification?? As Mike says, highway miles are
>>>>> easy on the engine.
>>>>>
>>>>> Abe
>>>>
>>>> Abe,
>>>> You took this way out of context. The previous poster was asking if
>>>> it would hurt to CONTINUE to get oil changes every 3,000 miles [for
>>>> the life of the car] as she did with her 82 Prelude. My response
>>>> had nothing to do with the FIRST oil change.
>>>> Ron
>>>
>>> Ron,
>>>
>>> This was Acertaingirl's original enquiry:
>>>
>>> "Here's my dilemma (well, not really). My Civic has 2000 miles on it
>>> currently,
>>> by mid Oct it will have about 3000. I am planning a 3000 mile road
>>> trip mid
>>> Oct, so I plan to have the oil changed before the trip, rather than
>>> after."
>>>
>>> So the first change was intimately connected with the interval.

>>
>> Wrong. I replied in line, so that it would be clear that I was
>> responding to the immediately preceding statement.

>
>Now you're making excuses.


I presume you're grinning as you write that ;-)

Ron
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Old 12 Sep 2004, 07:13 pm
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Milleron wrote:
> Wrong. I replied in line, so that it would be clear that I was
> responding to the immediately preceding statement.


I'll recap the context for you:

Acertaingirl first asked when her first oil change should be. She then
indicated the 3K road trip, and subsequently indicated that she was
considering changing the oil every 3K miles as she did with her old
'lude, including before the trip, at only 3K miles (thereby defeating
the special properties of the first batch of oil), but she didn't want
to do any damage.

You indicated that changing the oil every 3K wouldn't hurt her car.
Maybe it wouldn't do damage, but if she took your advice at the first 3K
the engine would no longer be protected by the special additives of the
first batch (assuming there are indeed special additives). Hence my
post, suggesting that she follow the manufacturer's recommendation for
the first oil change, not your assertion that it was fine to change at 3K.

The only way you can say I took your post "way out of context" is if
you didn't reread the thread, dude. Have trouble admitting you're wrong?
It's not a big deal, you know. ;-)
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