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Old 05 Sep 2004, 10:49 pm
Bubble Butt
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RHODE ISLAND...Not Fun!!! Most of the time it is bad and the streets are
worse.
>
> Where on Earth do you live that you have that kind of weather all the

time?
>
>



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Old 06 Sep 2004, 06:04 am
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"Bubble Butt" <tomboy83@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> RHODE ISLAND...Not Fun!!! Most of the time it is bad and the streets are
> worse.
>>
>> Where on Earth do you live that you have that kind of weather all the

> time?



Hmm. The sun never shines in Rhode Island?


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Old 06 Sep 2004, 08:28 am
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Sometimes, but not too much.



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> "Bubble Butt" <tomboy83@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:y7R_c.1521$ip2.469@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
> > RHODE ISLAND...Not Fun!!! Most of the time it is bad and the streets are
> > worse.
> >>
> >> Where on Earth do you live that you have that kind of weather all the

> > time?

>
>
> Hmm. The sun never shines in Rhode Island?
>
>



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Old 06 Sep 2004, 09:34 am
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Bubble Butt wrote:
> Sometimes, but not too much.


What, do you live out in Foster or something?? I didn't know they had
Internet access in such places. <vbg>

(I lived in Providence for a few years and got around the state a
little. My mechanic was--really still is, he's great but now too far
away--in Johnston.)
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Old 06 Sep 2004, 10:28 am
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Check here for installation instructions...

http://www.handa-accessories.com/accord03.html


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Old 06 Sep 2004, 06:44 pm
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On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 18:56:42 GMT, "Bubble Butt" <tomboy83@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>You said you live in the Mid West. Try living in New England where 90% of
>the roads are poorly lit, some with no lights at all, and the rest are
>twisty, winding, hilly roads in the middle of no where. Then lets add rain,
>sleet, snow, and fog on top of that. It must be nice living in the FLAT,
>OPEN, and Temperate mid west! I have fog lights on my car in new England and
>keep them on all the time and don't have a problem with others that have
>theirs on all the time. If you have that much trouble with your eyes, maybe
>you should drive...or wear sunglasses.

Dear Bubble Butt,
If you leave your fog lights on all the time, then you're one of the
"unawares" who is apparently beyond reasoning with. Enjoy your fog
lights, but remember that running them for no reason endangers
oncoming drivers,= (and, indirectly, you) by interfering with their
ability to see the road as well as they could if you turned those
infernal things off when there's no reason to have them on.
>
>
>
>> My suggestion, and I'm 100% serious, is to forget fog lights
>> altogether. IMHO, they're the most misunderstood accessory in the
>> automotive world right now. All they're designed for is visualizing
>> the edge of the road when there's fog so thick that you really can't
>> see through it, and almost no one living outside of London or San
>> Francisco or places like that has ANY legitimate reason to have them.
>> It's terribly unfortunate that they started putting them on most
>> vehicles in the US where the ONLY function they serve 99.9% of the
>> time is to put TWICE as many lumens on the retinas of the people with
>> whom the user is sharing the road, making it more difficult for them
>> to see and making it MORE likely that an accident will happen to
>> someone.

>


Ron
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Old 06 Sep 2004, 06:45 pm
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On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 03:49:50 GMT, "Bubble Butt" <tomboy83@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>RHODE ISLAND...Not Fun!!! Most of the time it is bad and the streets are
>worse.


I'm sorry, but that's nothing but unadulterated rubbish.

>> Where on Earth do you live that you have that kind of weather all the

>time?
>>
>>

>


Ron
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Old 07 Sep 2004, 09:19 am
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"the Warners" <dwarner@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> I would not have wanted to install them myself - although the kit comes

with
> a template for where to cut out the plastic bumper facing, I would not

want
> to be the one messing it up and having to replace the bumper.


Been there - done that - got screwed in the process. Our 2003 Accord was
supposed to have them installed on delivery. They weren't. Honda tech
didn't use the template right and botched the cut. Ended up having to have
the bumper replaced. Painted at dealer - ("It'll be as good as the factory
paint job. In fact, we'll gare-on-teee it!") Peeled within 3 months.
Fortunately, that car was 1 in a million that ended up being a lemon and we
got a 2004 to replace it (that is another long story.....) That's the long
way around for getting a factory-painted bumper replacement, huh?!

So, YEAH - if you plan to have fog lights installed, find a DEALER to do it.
Just make sure you INSIST that a tech who is doing the work has lots of
experience doing this install.

This is NOT a job for the casual weekend warrior.


> I still haven't figured out how to replace the bulb if/when it needs

replacing.

It's a very easy process. Go to the following web page:
http://www.handa-accessories.com/accext03.html Find foglights on list, and
pick the 2-door or 4-door instructions.
It is outlined in the installation instructions (last page or so from what I
recall).... Takes less than 3 minutes.

Had the same above dealer laugh at me when I told them I needed to replace
the foglight lens or lamp after it was shattered with winter road debris.
They told me the whole bumper had to be removed to replace it. What a
bucket of bull crap. Needless to say, I haven't been back to that dealer
since.


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Old 07 Sep 2004, 11:15 am
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Custers wrote:
>
> Been there - done that - got screwed in the process. Our 2003 Accord was
> supposed to have them installed on delivery. They weren't. Honda tech
> didn't use the template right and botched the cut. Ended up having to have
> the bumper replaced. Painted at dealer - ("It'll be as good as the factory
> paint job. In fact, we'll gare-on-teee it!") Peeled within 3 months.



which means they didnt use the plastic primer. sure sign they dont know
what theyre doing.

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Old 08 Sep 2004, 04:04 pm
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Milleron <millerdot90@SPAMlessosu.edu> wrote in message news:<sttpj0hnoldkt22kg71svpso0cl40ku25i@4ax.com>. ..
> On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 18:56:42 GMT, "Bubble Butt" <tomboy83@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >You said you live in the Mid West. Try living in New England where 90% of
> >the roads are poorly lit, some with no lights at all, and the rest are
> >twisty, winding, hilly roads in the middle of no where. Then lets add rain,
> >sleet, snow, and fog on top of that. It must be nice living in the FLAT,
> >OPEN, and Temperate mid west! I have fog lights on my car in new England and
> >keep them on all the time and don't have a problem with others that have
> >theirs on all the time. If you have that much trouble with your eyes, maybe
> >you should drive...or wear sunglasses.

> Dear Bubble Butt,
> If you leave your fog lights on all the time, then you're one of the
> "unawares" who is apparently beyond reasoning with. Enjoy your fog
> lights, but remember that running them for no reason endangers
> oncoming drivers,= (and, indirectly, you) by interfering with their
> ability to see the road as well as they could if you turned those
> infernal things off when there's no reason to have them on.
> >
> >
> >
> >> My suggestion, and I'm 100% serious, is to forget fog lights
> >> altogether. IMHO, they're the most misunderstood accessory in the
> >> automotive world right now. All they're designed for is visualizing
> >> the edge of the road when there's fog so thick that you really can't
> >> see through it, and almost no one living outside of London or San
> >> Francisco or places like that has ANY legitimate reason to have them.
> >> It's terribly unfortunate that they started putting them on most
> >> vehicles in the US where the ONLY function they serve 99.9% of the
> >> time is to put TWICE as many lumens on the retinas of the people with
> >> whom the user is sharing the road, making it more difficult for them
> >> to see and making it MORE likely that an accident will happen to
> >> someone.

> >

>
> Ron


Driving in urban areas {LA/Orange County), cars and trucks with fog
lights on are not a problem; people who drive off-road trucks that are
jacked up with their lights, coming at you from the rear, talking
about being blinded by the light.
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