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Old 23 Aug 2004, 09:15 pm
Mohammed Datta
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Default Diesel Honda's?

Has anyone ever wondered why there are no diesel Honda or any Japanese cars
for that matter? I think this would be a good market, or does anyone think
that VW, and Benz have the expertise there?

Thank you.


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Old 23 Aug 2004, 09:43 pm
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Default Re: Diesel Honda's?

You obviously don't live in Europe.
Honda already have a diesel sedan.
Accord Euro. (aka TSX if you live in that other country)


"Mohammed Datta" <tomboy83@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Has anyone ever wondered why there are no diesel Honda or any Japanese

cars
> for that matter? I think this would be a good market, or does anyone think
> that VW, and Benz have the expertise there?
>
> Thank you.
>
>



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Old 23 Aug 2004, 10:30 pm
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Default Re: Diesel Honda's?

Mohammed Datta wrote:
> Has anyone ever wondered why there are no diesel Honda or any Japanese cars
> for that matter? I think this would be a good market, or does anyone think
> that VW, and Benz have the expertise there?
>
> Thank you.
>
>


I believe you can get a diesel Accord in Europe and my cousin is going
to graduate school working on diesel technology for Honda.

Mark
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Old 23 Aug 2004, 10:35 pm
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Mohammed Datta wrote:

> Has anyone ever wondered why there are no diesel Honda or any Japanese cars
> for that matter? I think this would be a good market, or does anyone think
> that VW, and Benz have the expertise there?


in 2006, the formula for diesel will change, so after then maybe we will
start getting some. also, diesel is often more expensive than gas... its
not subsidized up to 40% like in parts of europe.
>
> Thank you.
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Old 24 Aug 2004, 06:58 am
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SoCalMike <mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<UHyWc.305374$%_6.211146@attbi_s01>...
> Mohammed Datta wrote:
>
> > Has anyone ever wondered why there are no diesel Honda or any Japanese cars
> > for that matter? I think this would be a good market, or does anyone think
> > that VW, and Benz have the expertise there?

>
> in 2006, the formula for diesel will change, so after then maybe we will
> start getting some. also, diesel is often more expensive than gas... its


It is?????
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Old 24 Aug 2004, 07:14 am
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In the early 80's Nissan had diesel cars and trucks in the US. I remember
seeing a station wagon from around 1984 (when the name changed) that was
something like a Datsun Nissan 810 Maxima Wagon Diesel. The car had name
badges all over it.

"Mohammed Datta" <tomboy83@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Has anyone ever wondered why there are no diesel Honda or any Japanese
> cars
> for that matter? I think this would be a good market, or does anyone think
> that VW, and Benz have the expertise there?
>
> Thank you.
>
>



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Old 24 Aug 2004, 08:55 am
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In article <10imc8mlj3s0d77@corp.supernews.com>,
"Jafir Elkurd" <jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote:

> In the early 80's Nissan had diesel cars and trucks in the US. I remember
> seeing a station wagon from around 1984 (when the name changed) that was
> something like a Datsun Nissan 810 Maxima Wagon Diesel. The car had name
> badges all over it.


An uncle of mine still owns an old Maxima diesel. The car is falling
apart (rust) but he says the engine is very reliable (he's a diesel
mechanic).

In many countries outside NA Nissan offers a Pathfinder (Terrano) with a
diesel engine (ZD30 engine, 4 cyl 3.0 liters, approx only 150hp, but
approx 275lbs/ft at a low 1600 rpm). I wish they would offer this engine
in a Quest or Pathfinder, I would buy one right away.

Chrysler is supposed to offer a diesel Dodge Caravan in NA in the next
few years. It's been available in Europe since around 1993. Mileage is
something like 35 mpg.

I guess when we'll start paying gas $2/liter we'll see more diesels
around, just like in Europe. Gas is still too cheap over here.

Carl
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Old 24 Aug 2004, 09:35 am
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"Mohammed Datta" <tomboy83@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Has anyone ever wondered why there are no diesel Honda or any Japanese

cars
> for that matter? I think this would be a good market, or does anyone think
> that VW, and Benz have the expertise there?
>
> Thank you.
>
>


There are 2 Honda diesels currently only for the european market of course.

1.7 litre in Civic producing 101hp which is actually an Isuzu engine.

2.2 litre in Accord producing 140hp and 340Nm. That is first Honda in-house
diesel engine, and appearantly many diesel nuts think it's possibly the best
in its class. Many magazines praise that engine.

Check http://www.honda.co.uk UK Honda site.


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Old 24 Aug 2004, 06:12 pm
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Chopface <thename_is_slick@yahoo.com> wrote in
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> Mohammed Datta wrote:
>> Has anyone ever wondered why there are no diesel Honda or any
>> Japanese cars for that matter? I think this would be a good market,
>> or does anyone think that VW, and Benz have the expertise there?
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>>

>
> I believe you can get a diesel Accord in Europe and my cousin is going
> to graduate school working on diesel technology for Honda.
>
> Mark


you're right and it's a quiet smooth powerfull one too
it's a new engine so there is not much known of it's reliability

marcel
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Old 25 Aug 2004, 06:57 am
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"Mohammed Datta" <tomboy83@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<OwxWc.31851$9Y6.5989@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net>...
> Has anyone ever wondered why there are no diesel Honda or any Japanese cars
> for that matter? I think this would be a good market, or does anyone think
> that VW, and Benz have the expertise there?
>
> Thank you.


What a question. That a high-revving engine maker like Honda would
make a slow lugging diesel engine. So the answer is: when pigs fly,
when diesels hit 9000 rpm.

Next thing you'll be asking why Honda doesn't make jets.

http://world.honda.com/news/2003/c031216_2.html

Seriously, Honda has expertise in high-revving gas engines. Why
couldn't they make a high-revving diesel? Because the diesel
explosion is more forceful, the engine must be stronger and heavier,
and thus have higher momentum forces at higher rpms. Whats the rpm
nature of their European diesel? Is their such a thing as a
high-revving diesel made of light, strong alloys?
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