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Old 12 Aug 2004, 06:59 am
Trident
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Default Questions after changed the timing belt for my 96 Accord

Hi there,
I got a couple of questions after changed the timing belt and water bump
yesterday.
1. How to tell the replaced timing belt is still in good condition or not? I
checked old timing belt, it is still like a new one to my eyes.
2. After replaced the timing belt, am I suppose to get a little more power
when driving? Or it takes few days to let the new belt get matched with the
car?
3. After changed the timing belt, a new problem occured that when the engine
is over 2500rpm, I can feel the accelerate pad is slightly shaking, what
could be the problem? It does not have this problem before. Just wondering
if the mechanic did something wrong or this is not a real problem for a new
belt?

Thanks!
Trident


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Old 12 Aug 2004, 07:51 am
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On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 07:59:37 -0400, "Trident"
<trident9440@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Hi there,
>I got a couple of questions after changed the timing belt and water bump
>yesterday.
>1. How to tell the replaced timing belt is still in good condition or not? I
>checked old timing belt, it is still like a new one to my eyes.


That's normal. Despite what the shop manual says, you can't tell an
old belt that's about to break from a brand new one.

>2. After replaced the timing belt, am I suppose to get a little more power
>when driving?


No.

>3. After changed the timing belt, a new problem occured that when the engine
>is over 2500rpm, I can feel the accelerate pad is slightly shaking, what
>could be the problem? It does not have this problem before. Just wondering
>if the mechanic did something wrong or this is not a real problem for a new
>belt?


I think you're just suffering from a case of automotive hypochondria.
:-)


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Old 12 Aug 2004, 09:54 am
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"Trident" <trident9440@hotmail.com> wrote
> Hi there,
> I got a couple of questions after changed the timing belt and water bump
> yesterday.
> 1. How to tell the replaced timing belt is still in good condition or not? I
> checked old timing belt, it is still like a new one to my eyes.


I think John Ings' input on this is important, of course, since IIRC from his
web sites it reflects hands on experience (and probably a lot of it). To build
experience and fully confirm John's point, I also feel it may be worth
considering the inspection procedure at
http://www.honda.co.uk/owner/CivicManual/pdf/6-20.pdf

I expect the steps in the link above for visual inspection of the TB would be
good for most any 1990s Honda's timing belt.

If you're worried about whether the belt even needed replacing, I'd completely
trust your owner's manual specs. for time and mileage on this.

> 2. After replaced the timing belt, am I suppose to get a little more power
> when driving?


I've never noticed this with my 1991 Civic's new timing belts.

> Or it takes few days to let the new belt get matched with the
> car?


Never noticed this.

> 3. After changed the timing belt, a new problem occured that when the engine
> is over 2500rpm, I can feel the accelerate pad is slightly shaking, what
> could be the problem? It does not have this problem before. Just wondering
> if the mechanic did something wrong or this is not a real problem for a new
> belt?


Just curious: Did the mechanic change the TB tensioner (a.k.a. "adjuster" at
online parts sites like Majestic's), too? The pros often recommend this by at
least the third timing belt change, IIRC.

Otherwise, I don't have anything particularly intelligent to add on this. I've
just noted a number of posts that say that, for example, a new tensioner with an
old belt is a bad idea. (Not that this is your situation.) Or a new belt with an
old tensioner might cause some problems, IIRC.

Caroline
Exactly one timing belt DIY remove and re-install under my belt.


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Old 12 Aug 2004, 10:46 am
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Default Re: Questions after changed the timing belt for my 96 Accord

After talking to several local dealers to see how they
stack up on price compared to Majestic, I cam up with some
interesting information.

1. The only parts that was severely overpriced compared to
Majestic was the belts. Timing belts and drive belts were
easily more than DOUBLE what I can get them from Majestic
for.

2. All of the dealers I emailed said they have never
replaced a timing belt tensioner on any car they serviced.

Weird.

t

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Old 12 Aug 2004, 11:21 am
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"disallow" <loewen_t at yahoo.ca @> wrote
> After talking to several local dealers to see how they
> stack up on price compared to Majestic, I cam up with some
> interesting information.


> 2. All of the dealers I emailed said they have never
> replaced a timing belt tensioner on any car they serviced.


Just to clarify, by "pros" in my previous post, I meant many folks here, most of
whom who've been posting a while and indicate they have a lot of experience with
TB changes.

> Weird.


Yes, based on the regard I have for the people here posting about this.

To how many dealers did you talk?


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Old 12 Aug 2004, 12:45 pm
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3 dealers in the winnipeg area.

t

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Old 12 Aug 2004, 04:37 pm
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disallow wrote:

> 3 dealers in the winnipeg area.
>
> t
>

Well no wonder the dealers' prices for the belts are double what Majestic
charges. You're comparing Canadian $ to U.S. $. Majestic is an American
site, and (I would think) they probably have prices a bit lower than U.S.
dealers as well.
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Old 12 Aug 2004, 10:56 pm
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as for the vibration at 2500 rpm. they have the balance shaft belt
off by a tooth or more.
Chip
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Old 12 Aug 2004, 11:55 pm
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Well duh, ya gearbox. I took freight and exchange into
consideration. I'm canadian, I'm used to my currency being
valueless....

t

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Old 14 Aug 2004, 08:10 pm
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"Caroline" <caroline10027remove@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<VwLSc.18502$9Y6.5203@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net>...
> "Trident" <trident9440@hotmail.com> wrote
> > Hi there,
> > I got a couple of questions after changed the timing belt and water bump
> > yesterday.
> > 1. How to tell the replaced timing belt is still in good condition or not? I
> > checked old timing belt, it is still like a new one to my eyes.

>
>> > 3. After changed the timing belt, a new problem occured that when the engine

> > is over 2500rpm, I can feel the accelerate pad is slightly shaking, what
> > could be the problem? It does not have this problem before. Just wondering
> > if the mechanic did something wrong or this is not a real problem for a new
> > belt?

> Exactly one timing belt DIY remove and re-install under my belt.


they have the balance shafts out of time. bad install.
Chip
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