Honda Car Forum

#31 (**permalink**) 07 Aug 2004, 08:25 am

Randy Hunt wrote:
>
> In article <5ddcea74.0408031833.1642440d@posting.google.com >,
> chip@chipanddebby.com says...
> > Dick Gozinya <inya@inya.com> wrote in message news:<npuvg0t2o1k66igvb81nbre5ntf2l3fns3@4ax.com>. ..
> > > On 03 Aug 2004 12:08:26 GMT, drpimpdaddi@aol.comgagnemvp (He
> > > Hate Retard and Moron) wrote:
> > >
> > > >Don't need to run the engine on the car with the good battery.
> > > >
> > > >Betcha didnt know dat!!!!!!!
> > > >
> > don't have to but it is adviseable since it is a huge parasitic
> > load on the good battery, and if the voltage of the good one dips
> > below 10 volts it may set srs codes or ecu fail codes.
> >
> > > >____________________________________
> > > >Do not write below this line. Reserved for dumb dicks
> >
> And as I said in my original reply. If the jumper cables are not heavy
> enough, you will loose to much cranking power heating them up to start
> the car with the dead battery. No, you are correct. You don't have to
> let the good battery charge the dead battery but it helps.
>
> Randy

Another sin that most people commit... Cheap battery booster cables.

A good set will cost $15-20 and even then, run the engine on the donor
car for a few minutes and let the the recipient battery charge.

Common sense really...

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JT

Just tooling through cyberspace in my ancient G4

#32 (**permalink**) 07 Aug 2004, 08:29 am

dold@WouldXaXco.usenet.us.com wrote:
>
> Chris Garcia <chris@evangar.com> wrote:
>
> > Yup, they're a cheap set...
>
> A bad/cheap set of jumper cables is, as you've discovered, worse than no
> cables at all, because it gets you looking in the wrong places for the fix.
> I've jump-started cars that others couldn't. The slow cranking almost
> always means you don't have enough juice.
>
> On the other hand, my experience is that a battery over three years old
> that is completely discharged isn't going to last much longer.
>
> I have also come to the conclusion that the pro-rated warranty on the cheap
> batteries at Kragen or AutoZone is just a way for them to tie you up as
> along term customer, renting their junk batteries. They rarely last more
> than three years, so you're back, buying half of another cheap battery.
>
> --
> ---
> Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8-122.5

Regarding AutoZone cheap batteries, you're correct.

I have been buying the "gold" batteries with a three year free
replacement. If a battery is going to fail prematurely, it will be most
likely during that time frame. Also, the better batteries have a
significantly higher cold cranking rating which means less stress on the battery.

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JT

Just tooling through cyberspace in my ancient G4

#33 (**permalink**) 07 Aug 2004, 08:33 am

Chris Garcia wrote:
>
>

snip

>
> This is where the (unrelated part of the) story gets interesting..
>
> I drop the new battery in, put the negative terminal on, bolt it down.. I
> put the positive terminal on, tighten the bolt.. and the terminal slides
> off.. Won't tighten.. Crap. The terminal was corroded to the point where
> the metal was too thin to tighten around the new post.. So now what? Buy
> a new terminal? Well.. I would've, but there's some weird little fusebox
> with wires coming out of it on my terminal.. They ain't got that..
> Honda's parts dept was closed for the day, so no chance of that.. Then I
> thought: "My grandpa is a plumber!" ..
>
> So, I give him a call ask him if he has some copper pipe about the same
> diameter as a battery post.. He does.. So, I ask him to cut me a piece
> about an inch long and to cut it open (so it could expand) I get my mom
> to run me out there to pick up the copper "shim" and back to my car... I
> put my shim on the positive post, give it a few taps to get it on there,
> slide my terminal on and viola! It works!
>
> Funny thing is, it worked for about almost 2 years until I finally
> brought it to the shop to get the alternator fixed.. Wound up getting a
> whole bunch of things done while it was there.. Including new battery
> cables..
>
> Montgomery Scott would be proud!
>
> --
> -Chris
>

Thar's more than one way to skin a cat, eh?

<G>

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JT

Just tooling through cyberspace in my ancient G4

#34 (**permalink**) 07 Aug 2004, 08:36 am

Chris Garcia wrote:
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> Chris Garcia <chris@evangar.com> decided to join the conversation on 05
> Aug 2004 with message news:Xns953C8D4F9FE21chrisgarcia@68.1.17.6:
>
> > How is that scary?
>
> Actually, I'll tell you what's scary... Scary is getting damn near rear
> ended because your brake lights are constantly on (so they look like tail
> lights), which is what happened to me when I went to get the bolt and
> nuts to do this.. Then as I was backing out of my parking spot, the guy
> across from me almost hit me cause (i'm assuming) he thought i was
> stopped. After that, I started putting my hazards on when I stopped. That
> at least got peoples' attention.
>
> How long would I have had to wait for a replacement piece to come in? How
> long would it have stayed in there (granted the old one stayed in for 13
> years) ..
>
> I wouldn't dare let my wife (carrying my unborn child) drive for a few
> days like that..
>
> --
> -Chris
>

You did just fine Chris, don't let the peanut gallery get to you...

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JT

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#35 (**permalink**) 07 Aug 2004, 04:02 pm

Grumpy au Contraire <Grumpy@doofis.FAKEcom> decided to join the
conversation on 07 Aug 2004 with message
news:4114DB81.EB1CDD3D@doofis.FAKEcom:

> You did just fine Chris, don't let the peanut gallery get to you...

I wouldn't call it "getting to me" .. I was just stating my point of view
of the situation, and my reasons for wanting a "same day" fix.

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#36 (**permalink**) 08 Aug 2004, 03:18 am

> A thought: if the plastic that normally goes there is so flimsy that it
> comes off all the time, wouldn't Honda do something about it? Perhaps it
> was a fluke that it came off, and simply replacing the missing piece
> with a Honda OEM part would be fine.

isnt the car a '91? stuff happens over time.

#37 (**permalink**) 08 Aug 2004, 04:28 am

SoCalMike <mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> decided to join the
conversation on 08 Aug 2004 with message
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llRc.224286$%_6.54434@attbi_s01:

>> A thought: if the plastic that normally goes there is so flimsy that
>> it comes off all the time, wouldn't Honda do something about it?
>> Perhaps it was a fluke that it came off, and simply replacing the
>> missing piece with a Honda OEM part would be fine.
>
> isnt the car a '91? stuff happens over time.

Yup.. '91 .. Has about 165k miles on it.

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#38 (**permalink**) 09 Aug 2004, 01:17 am

drpimpdaddi@aol.comgagnemvp (He*Hate*Retard*and*Moron) Wrote:
>Don't need to run the engine on the car
> with the good battery.
>Betcha didnt know dat!!!!!!!

____________________________________
Great advice! It's much better to try and jump a car off of 12v battery
instead of a 14.5v live system. Nothing like TWO dead batteries.....LOL!

>Do not write below this line. Reserved
> for me.

Not anymore : )

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