Honda Car Forum

On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 john@localhost.localdomain wrote:

> Having done exactly what the original poster suggests for the past 14
> years on a 1990 integra without ANY ill effects

....that you know of.

> I say do it.

That's nice. Automakers, engineers, and people with more knowledge than
you say...DON'T.

> I do it because the 4-cyl integra engine vibrates if left in gear at a
> stop

Because of worn engine mounts, exacerbated by your boneheaded
back-and-forth shifting from Drive to Neutral to Drive to Neutral to Drive
to Neutral...

> I also think the transmission stays a bit cooler

Oh, well, now that might be something, there. What's the reading on your
trans fluid temperature gauge in Neutral vs. Drive?

-DS (What's that you say? No trans fluid temp gauge? You were just saying
"the transmission stays cooler" to make yourself feel important? Ah. OK,
got it, thanks for clearing that up.)

, but I doubt this makes much difference.
>
> ...John
>
>

Thats funny........

I think it is an obsessive compulsive behavior on his part....maybe he flips
his lights on/off repeatedly at home or washes his hands continually, or
locks and unlocks the doors obsessively..


CaptainKrunch



"Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
news:Pine.GSO.4.58.0407211759070.9088@alumni.engin .umich.edu...
> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 john@localhost.localdomain wrote:
>
> > Having done exactly what the original poster suggests for the past 14
> > years on a 1990 integra without ANY ill effects
>
> ...that you know of.
>
> > I say do it.
>
> That's nice. Automakers, engineers, and people with more knowledge than
> you say...DON'T.
>
> > I do it because the 4-cyl integra engine vibrates if left in gear at a
> > stop
>
> Because of worn engine mounts, exacerbated by your boneheaded
> back-and-forth shifting from Drive to Neutral to Drive to Neutral to Drive
> to Neutral...
>
> > I also think the transmission stays a bit cooler
>
> Oh, well, now that might be something, there. What's the reading on your
> trans fluid temperature gauge in Neutral vs. Drive?
>
> -DS (What's that you say? No trans fluid temp gauge? You were just saying
> "the transmission stays cooler" to make yourself feel important? Ah. OK,
> got it, thanks for clearing that up.)
>
> , but I doubt this makes much difference.
> >
> > ...John
> >
> >

"CaptainKrunch"
> Thats funny........
> I think it is an obsessive compulsive behavior on his part....maybe he
flips
> his lights on/off repeatedly at home or washes his hands continually, or
> locks and unlocks the doors obsessively..

brilliant...just brilliant
You seem to be an expert on OCD and Paxil

I work in a pharmacy....I am getting to be able to recognize drug addicts
better also




"Robert" <rchin@nospampanix.com> wrote in message
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> "CaptainKrunch"
> > Thats funny........
> > I think it is an obsessive compulsive behavior on his part....maybe he
> flips
> > his lights on/off repeatedly at home or washes his hands continually, or
> > locks and unlocks the doors obsessively..
>
> brilliant...just brilliant
> You seem to be an expert on OCD and Paxil
>
>

On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 18:01:35 -0400, Daniel J. Stern <dastern@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 john@localhost.localdomain wrote:
>
>> Having done exactly what the original poster suggests for the past 14
>> years on a 1990 integra without ANY ill effects
>
> ...that you know of.

I'm sure my car will explode tomorrow killing everyone in a 30ft
radius, but for the past 14 years and 145,000 miles, the car has been
trouble free.

In fact, it has been far more trouble free than most cars this old, so
maybe shifting to neutral at stops should be required!

That was a joke Dan. I have to point it out since you don't seem to
have a sense of humor.

>> I say do it.
>
> That's nice. Automakers, engineers, and people with more knowledge than
> you say...DON'T.
>
>> I do it because the 4-cyl integra engine vibrates if left in gear at a
>> stop
>
> Because of worn engine mounts, exacerbated by your boneheaded
> back-and-forth shifting from Drive to Neutral to Drive to Neutral to Drive
> to Neutral...

I've shifted into neutral at stops since I drove the car from the
dealer's lot with 7 miles on the odometer. It vibrates the same today
as it did 14 years ago when it was brand spankin' new.

The engines in 1990 integras don't have balance shafts and liquid
filled engine mounts to smooth them out, so the vibration is normal
for that engine/model. V6s, V8s, V12s, H4s, and I4s with balance
shafts and/or fancy mounts vibrate less.

To the original poster: do what you want. It might cause some
additional wear, but at least in my case, that hasn't shortened the
life of the car to less than 14 years.

....John