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My '04 Accord has 560 miles & is solid as a rock.

My '96 I30t has 98,215 miles & is solid as a rock.

I have to admit, you are all scaring me. I am not going to be happy
if the Honda starts rattling; I've been spoiled much too long.

JM

I live in Chile, and my 04 I-4 EX AT Accord rattlemaster was made in the US.

-Indirecto



"JM" <jmattis@attglobal.net> wrote in message
news:de3b9c1b.0407111142.13e20e38@posting.google.c om...
> Might add something useful if the posters would tell us which model
> (DX, LX, EX), which engine, where assembled (US, Mexico, Japan).
> Otherwise this is just a bitch session and doesn't add anything we
> don't already know.
>
> JM

On 11 Jul 2004 12:42:01 -0700, jmattis@attglobal.net (JM) wrote:

>Might add something useful if the posters would tell us which model
>(DX, LX, EX), which engine, where assembled (US, Mexico, Japan).
>Otherwise this is just a bitch session and doesn't add anything we
>don't already know.

Yep and it would also be useful to know which OE supplier made various
parts, such as dash, instrument panel, heater/A-C & housing and blower
assembly. From a look at www.hondaautomotiveparts.com there are several
parts listed for the same item, some with a mfr name - not sure if the
parts vary randomly or according to model and/or trim level. Honda has
certainly been moving away from their traditional suppliers, like Denso and
Toyo Roki for such things. One fairly recent model Civic(?) had an
instrument panel made by Ford.

The "story" about Honda getting the U.S. OE suppliers to lift their quality
has been around for >10years now... and yet things seem to be getting
worse. From what I hear it's being relfected in their sales so hopefully
there'll be a corporate ass-kicking session before much longer.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

> certainly been moving away from their traditional suppliers, like Denso and
> Toyo Roki for such things. One fairly recent model Civic(?) had an
> instrument panel made by Ford.
>


FORD??

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! !!!!

Chris Aseltine wrote:

> "Joshua J. Belsky" <belsky@brionne.cyberverse.com> writes:
>> John Horner <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> "Ldmessages" <ldmessages@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I heard a faint whine while from the front of the car during a test
>>>> drive. There was also some hesitation with downshifting. I am
>>>> concerned about the transmission in this vehicle.
>>>
>>> My big complaint with this car is all of the random buzzes and rattles.
>>> I thought that by buying a Honda I was getting first rate design and
>>> assembly, but at least on my car the number of noises which should be
>>> there really makes me mad.
>>>
>>> Right now the driver side visor sometimes buzzes, the rear seat creaks
>>> where it rubs on the trunk opening, and there is a plastic on metal
>>> click or clunk under the hood.
>>
>> Tons of rattles for me too.
>> * Buzz in the right side tweeter
>> * Rattle in the visors when I hit bumps
>> * Creaks a lot
>> * Click when I hit the brakes (I think it's the interlock that prevents
>> you from shifting into drive without pressing the brakes)
>
> Here's mine: ('04 LX V6 coupe)
>
> * Steering column clicks over every single bump, even small ones
> * Constant ticking from the rear-right trunk area
> * Buzzing from what seems inside the dash on small bumps at highway speeds
> * (cold weather) Creaking from base of the windshield (this one is very
> common)
> * Buzzing from the door panels where it meets the window
> * Tapping from the headliner above the driver's head
>
Interior noises seem to be present in many newer cars by many manufacturers,
including Honda, Toyota and of course, the big 3. Just be thankful that
Honda's mechanical quality (V6 auto tranny issues and a handful of CR-V
fires aside) is still near the top, along with Toyota. Give me a rattly
Honda over a rattle-free Crapsler (if there actually is one) any day.

> Interior noises seem to be present in many newer cars by many
manufacturers,
> including Honda, Toyota and of course, the big 3. Just be thankful that
> Honda's mechanical quality (V6 auto tranny issues and a handful of CR-V
> fires aside) is still near the top, along with Toyota. Give me a rattly
> Honda over a rattle-free Crapsler (if there actually is one) any day.


Much can be said about looking at other's faults in order to justify your
own. For now, I'm still going back to the dealer once every month to have
them try to correct yet another rattle... and hoping they won't make it
worse.

(And still looking to replace the Accord sooner than the my originally
planned 3-year cycle)

-Indirecto

On 12 Jul 2004 21:28:11 GMT, Imminent Vengeance <me@privacy.net> wrote:

>Chris Aseltine wrote:
>
>> * Steering column clicks over every single bump, even small ones
>> * Constant ticking from the rear-right trunk area
>> * Buzzing from what seems inside the dash on small bumps at highway speeds
>> * (cold weather) Creaking from base of the windshield (this one is very
>> common)
>> * Buzzing from the door panels where it meets the window
>> * Tapping from the headliner above the driver's head
>>
>Interior noises seem to be present in many newer cars by many manufacturers,
>including Honda, Toyota and of course, the big 3.

This is true - reasons: 1) with air bags up the wazoo, padded interiors are
no longer a necessity so less foam materials in panel plastics; 2) attempts
to lose ounces of weight for MPGs; 3) the current witchhunt against PVC by
the enviro-nuts... and yes Wank Haxman, that fine upstanding defender of
idiots who can't think for themselves, is leading the charge.:-) The
plastics mfrs have come up with new much harder, (olefinic) polymers which
are thinner for similar strength characteristics. Hmm - I don't recall
being asked if we wanted this but the results are evident and obvious to
all!!

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

George Macdonald wrote:

> One fairly recent model Civic(?) had an
> instrument panel made by Ford.

Ford may have made several models, but they certainly made the Accord cluster:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?P22C35AC8
(do a search for the multiple instances of the word "ford" on the page)

-James

news@daytona.jcu.edu (James) wrote in message news:<896c9ed3.0407130519.61d2814e@posting.google. com>...
> George Macdonald wrote:
>
> > One fairly recent model Civic(?) had an
> > instrument panel made by Ford.
>
> Ford may have made several models, but they certainly made the Accord cluster:
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?P22C35AC8
> (do a search for the multiple instances of the word "ford" on the page)
>
> -James

Hard to believe. At least this doesn't go to 03-04 models, not that I
know of anyway.....

Im anonymous <acctforjunk@yahoo.com> wrote:
> news@daytona.jcu.edu (James) wrote in message news:<896c9ed3.0407130519.61d2814e@posting.google. com>...
>> George Macdonald wrote:
>>
>> > One fairly recent model Civic(?) had an
>> > instrument panel made by Ford.
>>
>> Ford may have made several models, but they certainly made the Accord cluster:
>> http://makeashorterlink.com/?P22C35AC8
>> (do a search for the multiple instances of the word "ford" on the page)
>>
>> -James

> Hard to believe. At least this doesn't go to 03-04 models, not that I
> know of anyway.....

I wouldn't assume that an American made part would be any better or worse
because it wasn't made by Ford.

--
-Joshua Belsky
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http://belsky.net