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yup, it stays in the ecm dude.
"SoCalMike" <mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Sebastian wrote:
> > "Lex" <aacevedo4@elp.rr.com> wrote in message
news:<FcQzc.13650$ar2.3543@fe2.texas.rr.com>...
> >
> >>disconnecting the battery will not clear codes on obd2 vehicles.
> >
> >
> > It's interesting that you and SoCalMike state this because both times
> > I managed to clear the Check Engine light by disconnecting the
> > battery.
>
> ill betcha its still stored in memory.

sstula@hotmail.com (Sebastian) wrote in message news:<fdebf8ed.0406160543.4c1beb53@posting.google. com>...
> "Lex" <aacevedo4@elp.rr.com> wrote in message news:<FcQzc.13650$ar2.3543@fe2.texas.rr.com>...
> > disconnecting the battery will not clear codes on obd2 vehicles.
>
> It's interesting that you and SoCalMike state this because both times
> I managed to clear the Check Engine light by disconnecting the
> battery.

that works fine, they remember the DTC but the readiness code
resets. An EVAP code is a two trip code so it' not that. Have the
code reade somewhere and let's see if we can't narrow this down.
Chip

chip@chipanddebby.com (Chip Stein) wrote in message news:<5ddcea74.0406161818.705b3275@posting.google. com>...
> sstula@hotmail.com (Sebastian) wrote in message news:<fdebf8ed.0406160543.4c1beb53@posting.google. com>...
> > "Lex" <aacevedo4@elp.rr.com> wrote in message news:<FcQzc.13650$ar2.3543@fe2.texas.rr.com>...

> that works fine, they remember the DTC but the readiness code
> resets. An EVAP code is a two trip code so it' not that. Have the
> code reade somewhere and let's see if we can't narrow this down.
> Chip

I'll get it checked when I go in for my next scheduled maintenance or
if the light comes on again! and I'll keep you posted.

>
> >No. The car doesn't get a chance to warm up. The Check Engine Light
> >has never come on when the engine was warm. It only happens on a cold
> >start (first start of the day) and the engine remains on for 30-60
> >seconds max.
>
> I don't know the details of the latest systems, but that would possibly
> indicate that it's not due to engine emissions but more like the
> evaporative controls, like the charcoal canister or its valves being out of
> whack. Do you know that you should not "top-up" when refilling the tank
> with gas? Liquids can get into parts of the system designed to handle
> vapors only. As someone else has mentioned it could be as simple as the
> gas cap leaking. If it persists, you should get the MIL code read.

I've doing "top-ups" on my "fill-ups" since the car was new :-)
After 178,000KM, I've never had the check engine light come on (I hope the bulb hasn't blown...)

Pars
98 DX Hatch


>
>
> Rgds, George Macdonald
>
> "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

hmm,

If I had the check engine light come on in my car, I'd be in a panic. (instead of trying to get rid of it by
pulling the plug)

Pars

Sebastian wrote:

> chip@chipanddebby.com (Chip Stein) wrote in message news:<5ddcea74.0406161818.705b3275@posting.google. com>...
> > sstula@hotmail.com (Sebastian) wrote in message news:<fdebf8ed.0406160543.4c1beb53@posting.google. com>...
> > > "Lex" <aacevedo4@elp.rr.com> wrote in message news:<FcQzc.13650$ar2.3543@fe2.texas.rr.com>...
>
> > that works fine, they remember the DTC but the readiness code
> > resets. An EVAP code is a two trip code so it' not that. Have the
> > code reade somewhere and let's see if we can't narrow this down.
> > Chip
>
> I'll get it checked when I go in for my next scheduled maintenance or
> if the light comes on again! and I'll keep you posted.

Pars <"sdaro(remove)"@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<40D38578.60FD7CBA@hotmail.com>...
> hmm,
>
> If I had the check engine light come on in my car, I'd be in a panic. (instead of trying to get rid of it by
> pulling the plug)
>
> Pars
>
I guess you have never owned a GM product. I had a few before I
switched to Honda. If the Check Engine Light was not on... you'd have
to check the bulb to determine if it burned itself out. After driving
a GM you become oblivious to the Check Engine Light.

I'm not too concerned in this situation because both times it came on
under the same conditions which are not "normal driving conditions"
and both occurrences were several months apart. If it was a real
problem the light would likely come on more often.

On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 20:11:40 -0400, Pars <"sdaro(remove)"@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
>
>>
>> >No. The car doesn't get a chance to warm up. The Check Engine Light
>> >has never come on when the engine was warm. It only happens on a cold
>> >start (first start of the day) and the engine remains on for 30-60
>> >seconds max.
>>
>> I don't know the details of the latest systems, but that would possibly
>> indicate that it's not due to engine emissions but more like the
>> evaporative controls, like the charcoal canister or its valves being out of
>> whack. Do you know that you should not "top-up" when refilling the tank
>> with gas? Liquids can get into parts of the system designed to handle
>> vapors only. As someone else has mentioned it could be as simple as the
>> gas cap leaking. If it persists, you should get the MIL code read.
>
>I've doing "top-ups" on my "fill-ups" since the car was new :-)
>After 178,000KM, I've never had the check engine light come on (I hope the bulb hasn't blown...)

So you're saying it's safe after all?

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

George Macdonald wrote:

> On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 20:11:40 -0400, Pars <"sdaro(remove)"@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >>
> >> >No. The car doesn't get a chance to warm up. The Check Engine Light
> >> >has never come on when the engine was warm. It only happens on a cold
> >> >start (first start of the day) and the engine remains on for 30-60
> >> >seconds max.
> >>
> >> I don't know the details of the latest systems, but that would possibly
> >> indicate that it's not due to engine emissions but more like the
> >> evaporative controls, like the charcoal canister or its valves being out of
> >> whack. Do you know that you should not "top-up" when refilling the tank
> >> with gas? Liquids can get into parts of the system designed to handle
> >> vapors only. As someone else has mentioned it could be as simple as the
> >> gas cap leaking. If it persists, you should get the MIL code read.
> >
> >I've doing "top-ups" on my "fill-ups" since the car was new :-)
> >After 178,000KM, I've never had the check engine light come on (I hope the bulb hasn't blown...)

In my experience, It's safe. (unless there's obvious crap around gas inlet, which would be unusual
since it's a sealed area and only exposed when you're pumping gas).

I find it funny that my engine light has never come on. Next time I start the car and leave it in
auxiliary, I'm going to have to pay attention to the lights on the dash.

Pars
98 DX Hatch

>
>
> So you're saying it's safe after all?
>
> Rgds, George Macdonald
>
> "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 22:10:19 -0400, pars <"sdaro(remove)"@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
>
>George Macdonald wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 20:11:40 -0400, Pars <"sdaro(remove)"@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >I've doing "top-ups" on my "fill-ups" since the car was new :-)
>> >After 178,000KM, I've never had the check engine light come on (I hope the bulb hasn't blown...)
>
>In my experience, It's safe. (unless there's obvious crap around gas inlet, which would be unusual
>since it's a sealed area and only exposed when you're pumping gas).

I don't know what you mean by "crap". All it takes is for liquid to get
into the vapor part of the system where it can prevent (vapor) valves from
functioning and eventually get into the charcoal canister which will
promptly turn into a gummy mess. In simple terms, if you take cold gas out
of an underground tank, put it in a car's gas tank, drive a short distance
and park in the hot sun, the gas can expand enough to get into parts of the
system where it's not supposed to go.

>I find it funny that my engine light has never come on. Next time I start the car and leave it in
>auxiliary, I'm going to have to pay attention to the lights on the dash.

The more recent vehicles have much stricter controls on vapor emissions,
the systems to control them and are more sensitive to throwing a
malfunction code. That was what all the fines, and attempts to hold up
Toyota for ransom, were about a coupla years back.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??