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Old 06 Jun 2004, 05:14 pm
alan
 
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Default ok, so I cleaned the PCV valve...

When I first took it out, it was fairly clean inside and made a light
rattling noise when shaken. If you blow gently from the intake side,
air will pass through, but if you blow slightly harder, it stops.

I then cleaned it out with throttle body cleaner. Now it rattles more
loudly, and I have to blow harder before the valve closes. Does this
sound about right?
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Old 06 Jun 2004, 06:31 pm
Caroline
 
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Default Re: ok, so I cleaned the PCV valve...

Did you do the little PCV vavle test where, with the valve properly installed,
you pinch the PCV hose and listen for a click?

Might not be good for all cars. Post your year and model, and I might be able to
tell you.

"alan" <no-longer-valid@yahoo.com> wrote
> When I first took it out, it was fairly clean inside and made a light
> rattling noise when shaken. If you blow gently from the intake side,
> air will pass through, but if you blow slightly harder, it stops.
>
> I then cleaned it out with throttle body cleaner. Now it rattles more
> loudly, and I have to blow harder before the valve closes. Does this
> sound about right?



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Old 06 Jun 2004, 07:43 pm
Tegger®
 
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Default Re: ok, so I cleaned the PCV valve...

alan <no-longer-valid@yahoo.com> spake unto the masses in
news:ca059r$iqf$1@news.Stanford.EDU:

> When I first took it out, it was fairly clean inside and made a light
> rattling noise when shaken. If you blow gently from the intake side,
> air will pass through, but if you blow slightly harder, it stops.
>
> I then cleaned it out with throttle body cleaner. Now it rattles more
> loudly, and I have to blow harder before the valve closes. Does this
> sound about right?




Yes.



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Old 06 Jun 2004, 09:26 pm
alan
 
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Default Re: ok, so I cleaned the PCV valve...

Caroline wrote:

> Did you do the little PCV vavle test where, with the valve properly installed,
> you pinch the PCV hose and listen for a click?


No. It's tucked under the intake manifold, so I can't reach it unless I
start taking off hoses.

>
> Might not be good for all cars. Post your year and model, and I might be able to
> tell you.


97 Integra GSR

>
> "alan" <no-longer-valid@yahoo.com> wrote
>
>>When I first took it out, it was fairly clean inside and made a light
>>rattling noise when shaken. If you blow gently from the intake side,
>>air will pass through, but if you blow slightly harder, it stops.
>>
>>I then cleaned it out with throttle body cleaner. Now it rattles more
>>loudly, and I have to blow harder before the valve closes. Does this
>>sound about right?

>
>
>

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Old 06 Jun 2004, 11:27 pm
JM
 
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Default Re: ok, so I cleaned the PCV valve...

alan <no-longer-valid@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<ca059r$iqf$1@news.Stanford.EDU>...
> When I first took it out, it was fairly clean inside and made a light
> rattling noise when shaken. If you blow gently from the intake side,
> air will pass through, but if you blow slightly harder, it stops.
>
> I then cleaned it out with throttle body cleaner. Now it rattles more
> loudly, and I have to blow harder before the valve closes. Does this
> sound about right?


No. replacing it for $5 sounds about right.

JM
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Old 06 Jun 2004, 11:28 pm
Caroline
 
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Default Re: ok, so I cleaned the PCV valve...

"alan" <no-longer-valid@yahoo.com> wrote
> Caroline wrote:
>
> > Did you do the little PCV valve test where, with the valve properly

installed,
> > you pinch the PCV hose and listen for a click?

>
> No. It's tucked under the intake manifold, so I can't reach it unless I
> start taking off hoses.
>
> > Might not be good for all cars. Post your year and model, and I might be

able to
> > tell you.

>
> 97 Integra GSR


I haven't seen any easy-to-retrieve online manuals for this. (A couple of online
manual resources exist for pre-1996 or so Honda models.)

The following has drawings and a description of this little test for 1995-1997
Civics, for what it's worth.

http://www.honda.co.uk/owner/CivicManual/pdf/11-109.pdf

If you're very concerned, just buy a new valve. They're not very expensive.

If you're not so concerned, and have no symptoms of a malfunctioning PCV valve
(e.g. reduced fuel mileage; oil seals leaking oil), then trust that your cleanup
of the valve went fine and put it back in.


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Old 07 Jun 2004, 12:19 am
y_p_w
 
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Default Re: ok, so I cleaned the PCV valve...



Caroline wrote:

> "alan" <no-longer-valid@yahoo.com> wrote
>
>>Caroline wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Did you do the little PCV valve test where, with the valve properly

>
> installed,
>
>>>you pinch the PCV hose and listen for a click?

>>
>>No. It's tucked under the intake manifold, so I can't reach it unless I
>>start taking off hoses.
>>
>>
>>>Might not be good for all cars. Post your year and model, and I might be

>
> able to
>
>>>tell you.

>>
>>97 Integra GSR

>
>
> I haven't seen any easy-to-retrieve online manuals for this. (A couple of online
> manual resources exist for pre-1996 or so Honda models.)
>
> The following has drawings and a description of this little test for 1995-1997
> Civics, for what it's worth.
>
> http://www.honda.co.uk/owner/CivicManual/pdf/11-109.pdf


From my "Integra Service Manual 1995":

"2. At idle, make sure there is a clicking sound from the PCV valve,
when the hose between PCV valve and intake manifold in [sic] lightly
pinched with your fingers or pliers."

I'll just say that the PCV valve of my '95 GS-R is a PITA to reach
without taking out stuff. I can't even fit a pair of pliers in
there to do the test. My '89 Integra had an easy to reach PCV valve
location. BTW - anyone knows what needs to be taken out?

> If you're very concerned, just buy a new valve. They're not very expensive.


OEM at the dealer is going to be way more. However - it's not something
that's replaced all that ofter.

> If you're not so concerned, and have no symptoms of a malfunctioning PCV valve
> (e.g. reduced fuel mileage; oil seals leaking oil), then trust that your cleanup
> of the valve went fine and put it back in.


I might be desperate enough to take it to a mechanic to do. PCV valves
are easy to replace in most cars, but the location in a GS-R is just
ridiculous.

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Old 07 Jun 2004, 12:48 am
alan
 
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Default Re: ok, so I cleaned the PCV valve...

y_p_w wrote:

>
>
> Caroline wrote:
>
>> "alan" <no-longer-valid@yahoo.com> wrote
>>
>>> Caroline wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Did you do the little PCV valve test where, with the valve properly

>>
>>
>> installed,
>>
>>>> you pinch the PCV hose and listen for a click?
>>>
>>>
>>> No. It's tucked under the intake manifold, so I can't reach it unless I
>>> start taking off hoses.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Might not be good for all cars. Post your year and model, and I
>>>> might be

>>
>>
>> able to
>>
>>>> tell you.
>>>
>>>
>>> 97 Integra GSR

>>
>>
>>
>> I haven't seen any easy-to-retrieve online manuals for this. (A couple
>> of online
>> manual resources exist for pre-1996 or so Honda models.)
>>
>> The following has drawings and a description of this little test for
>> 1995-1997
>> Civics, for what it's worth.
>>
>> http://www.honda.co.uk/owner/CivicManual/pdf/11-109.pdf

>
>
> From my "Integra Service Manual 1995":
>
> "2. At idle, make sure there is a clicking sound from the PCV valve,
> when the hose between PCV valve and intake manifold in [sic] lightly
> pinched with your fingers or pliers."
>
> I'll just say that the PCV valve of my '95 GS-R is a PITA to reach
> without taking out stuff. I can't even fit a pair of pliers in
> there to do the test. My '89 Integra had an easy to reach PCV valve
> location. BTW - anyone knows what needs to be taken out?


I unplugged the hose that connects the valve cover to the intake before
the throttle body, and the coolant line that runs to the throttle body.
Then, you can barely fit your hand in there to pull the PCV valve out
from the engine. Then you can barely fit some pliers in there to remove
the hose clamp that holds the PCV valve on.

>
>> If you're very concerned, just buy a new valve. They're not very
>> expensive.

>
>
> OEM at the dealer is going to be way more. However - it's not something
> that's replaced all that ofter.


yeah, it's like $20 around here

>
> I might be desperate enough to take it to a mechanic to do. PCV valves
> are easy to replace in most cars, but the location in a GS-R is just
> ridiculous.
>

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Old 07 Jun 2004, 07:41 am
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Default Re: ok, so I cleaned the PCV valve...

"Caroline" <caroline10027remove@earthlink.net> spake unto the masses in
news:1aSwc.4712$uX2.630@newsread2.news.pas.earthli nk.net:

> If you're not so concerned, and have no symptoms of a malfunctioning
> PCV valve (e.g. reduced fuel mileage; oil seals leaking oil),




Those are not symptoms of a plugged PCV valve. Stop misleading people.


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Old 07 Jun 2004, 09:47 am
Caroline
 
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Default Re: ok, so I cleaned the PCV valve...

"y_p_w" <y_p_w@hotmail.com> wrote
Caroline wrote
> > If you're very concerned, just buy a new valve. They're not very expensive.

>
> OEM at the dealer is going to be way more.


Sure. But $20 still isn't a lot every 60k miles or so.

> However - it's not something that's replaced all that ofter.


Autozone online sells two makes of PCV valve for the 97 Integra:
Deutsch: $3
Beck-Arnley: $11.56

Add $3 or so to replace the grommet.

Online parts sites say their prices are discounted from a retail cost of about
$20.


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