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Old 22 May 2004, 09:07 pm
jabba
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Default changing manual transmission fluid

What is the typical price to flush/replace manual transmission fluid
at a honda dealer?

Spec: 1998 Civic EX, 5-speed manual, 30K miles


Also, how come it isn't as easy to replace transmission fluid as it is
to replace the engine oil? Some cars have a drain plug, but it doesn't
completely drain the transmission fluid. There must be a good reason
why auto makers make it so you have to remove the pan. Otherwise, I
would do it myself if it was as easy as changing the oil.

Thanks in advance for any advise.

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Old 23 May 2004, 04:53 am
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Default Re: changing manual transmission fluid

Loosen one drain bolt, drain, add 1.8 quarts of Honda MTL.
$5 per quart, or $9 per quart at dealership RAPEAGE prices.

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"jabba" <a@b.com> wrote in message
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> What is the typical price to flush/replace manual transmission fluid
> at a honda dealer?
>
> Spec: 1998 Civic EX, 5-speed manual, 30K miles
>
>
> Also, how come it isn't as easy to replace transmission fluid as it is
> to replace the engine oil? Some cars have a drain plug, but it doesn't
> completely drain the transmission fluid. There must be a good reason
> why auto makers make it so you have to remove the pan. Otherwise, I
> would do it myself if it was as easy as changing the oil.
>
> Thanks in advance for any advise.
>



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Old 24 May 2004, 04:21 am
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Default Re: changing manual transmission fluid

On Sun, 23 May 2004 02:07:46 GMT, jabba <a@b.com> wrote:

>What is the typical price to flush/replace manual transmission fluid
>at a honda dealer?
>
>Spec: 1998 Civic EX, 5-speed manual, 30K miles
>
>
>Also, how come it isn't as easy to replace transmission fluid as it is
>to replace the engine oil? Some cars have a drain plug, but it doesn't
>completely drain the transmission fluid. There must be a good reason
>why auto makers make it so you have to remove the pan. Otherwise, I
>would do it myself if it was as easy as changing the oil.


But it *is* easy - certainly easier for a first-timer than getting the oil
filter off. The drain is simple - warm the trans up first. Get yourself
some plastic tubing - 1/2" OD should be about right - stick a funnel in one
end and the other end in the trans fill hole and pour away.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
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Old 24 May 2004, 08:44 pm
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On Mon, 24 May 2004 05:21:28 -0400, George Macdonald
<fammacd=!SPAM^nothanks@tellurian.com> wrote:
>But it *is* easy - certainly easier for a first-timer than getting the oil
>filter off. The drain is simple - warm the trans up first. Get yourself
>some plastic tubing - 1/2" OD should be about right - stick a funnel in one
>end and the other end in the trans fill hole and pour away.
>
>Rgds, George Macdonald
>


I wimped out and had it done at a local dealer for $35. Probably I
will do it myself in the future when I feel more comfortable, or have
someone with more knowledge by my side.

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Old 26 May 2004, 03:46 am
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$35 at the dealership is not that bad IMHO.

"jajabinks" <a@b.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 24 May 2004 05:21:28 -0400, George Macdonald
> <fammacd=!SPAM^nothanks@tellurian.com> wrote:
> >But it *is* easy - certainly easier for a first-timer than getting the

oil
> >filter off. The drain is simple - warm the trans up first. Get yourself
> >some plastic tubing - 1/2" OD should be about right - stick a funnel in

one
> >end and the other end in the trans fill hole and pour away.
> >
> >Rgds, George Macdonald
> >

>
> I wimped out and had it done at a local dealer for $35. Probably I
> will do it myself in the future when I feel more comfortable, or have
> someone with more knowledge by my side.
>



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Old 26 May 2004, 07:38 am
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Unless they just pumped bulk oil into it ;-)

"Mista Bone" <mistab0ne@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> $35 at the dealership is not that bad IMHO.
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Old 26 May 2004, 08:45 pm
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On Wed, 26 May 2004 07:38:32 -0500, "Jafir Elkurd"
<jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote:

>"Mista Bone" <mistab0ne@nospam.net> wrote:
>>
>> $35 at the dealership is not that bad IMHO.

>
>Unless they just pumped bulk oil into it ;-)


Heh. Reminds me of a friend's uncle, who would save used motor oil,
from cars, for use in his old Allis-Chalmers tractor. He'd just poor
it in there, filthy dirty, dead flies, and unidentifiable clumps,
taking so much pride that good ol' American Iron could deal with that.

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Old 26 May 2004, 08:53 pm
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On Wed, 26 May 2004 07:38:32 -0500, "Jafir Elkurd"
<jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote:

>Unless they just pumped bulk oil into it ;-)
>
>"Mista Bone" <mistab0ne@nospam.net> wrote in message
>news:tPYsc.7182$dn1.2364@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
>> $35 at the dealership is not that bad IMHO.
>>

>


They use the same MTF that they would have used had I brought my car
in for a 30K tune-up and charged me $500 to do so. They're reputable
when it comes to service, though expensive like all other dealers.

By the way, thanks mista bone for the picture. I saved it for future
reference.

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Old 27 May 2004, 04:56 am
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Thank BlackDueceCoupe, he took the pic, I'm hosting it and using it as a
teaching tool.


"jajabinks" <a@b.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 26 May 2004 07:38:32 -0500, "Jafir Elkurd"
> <jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote:
>
> >Unless they just pumped bulk oil into it ;-)
> >
> >"Mista Bone" <mistab0ne@nospam.net> wrote in message
> >news:tPYsc.7182$dn1.2364@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> >> $35 at the dealership is not that bad IMHO.
> >>

> >

>
> They use the same MTF that they would have used had I brought my car
> in for a 30K tune-up and charged me $500 to do so. They're reputable
> when it comes to service, though expensive like all other dealers.
>
> By the way, thanks mista bone for the picture. I saved it for future
> reference.
>



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Old 27 May 2004, 11:01 am
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jabba <a@b.com> wrote:
> What is the typical price to flush/replace manual transmission fluid
> at a honda dealer?


> Spec: 1998 Civic EX, 5-speed manual, 30K miles



> Also, how come it isn't as easy to replace transmission fluid as it is
> to replace the engine oil? Some cars have a drain plug, but it doesn't
> completely drain the transmission fluid. There must be a good reason
> why auto makers make it so you have to remove the pan. Otherwise, I
> would do it myself if it was as easy as changing the oil.


You might be thinking of an automatic transmission, where most pans have to
be removed in order to replace the filter, and there is no drain plug.

A manual transmission usually has a fill plug, a drain plug and no filter.

By comparison to an engine oil change, the only difficult is that there is
no handy filler tube, so you probably need some sort of pump to get the oil
into the transmission. Make sure you pull the filler plug before the drain
plug. There have been some stories about filler plugs that won't come out.

I drained the oil before I discovered that the filler plug was permanently
stuck in the transmission on a 67 Datsun.



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