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Thanks for looking,
Like I said 92 Accord (auto) about 155,000 I bought it around 150,000,
and have no problems yet. Only when I get to about 55 or 60 MPH does
the tach bob up and down speratically about 100- as much as 300 RPMS,
but not when I get past about 70 or 75. Some days it does it and some
days it doesn't. Obviosly when ever I get someone in the car to show
them it never does. What could this be? Also for all you Accord
owners out there. I have the 2.2 engine what is the avg. RPMS when
going 60 flat?

Thanks
-Adam

Have you confirmed that this is travel speed related, and not engine speed
related? For example, if you shift in to 2, and get the rpms to about the
same place (as they are at 55mph in 4th gear), can you ever get this
behavior? If you don't have a tach, you'll have to do it by ear.

Does the speedometer ever jump around? Is your Check Engine light lit?

-Arthur


Adam wrote:
> Thanks for looking,
> Like I said 92 Accord (auto) about 155,000 I bought it around 150,000,
> and have no problems yet. Only when I get to about 55 or 60 MPH does
> the tach bob up and down speratically about 100- as much as 300 RPMS,
> but not when I get past about 70 or 75. Some days it does it and some
> days it doesn't. Obviosly when ever I get someone in the car to show
> them it never does. What could this be? Also for all you Accord
> owners out there. I have the 2.2 engine what is the avg. RPMS when
> going 60 flat?
>
> Thanks
> -Adam

Thanks for the response. I will try that and get back to you all.
Speedo doesn't jump around at all so I am thinking it is some type of
belt slipping of some sorts. The Check engine light someimes comes on
but when I turn off the car and then back on it does not come on. It
is spuratic it is more off then it is on. I am showing an ABS light
though but I don't think the two are related
P.S. Please respond to the post or email me at Adam@Witek.net



Arthur Russell <atr@REMOVE_CAPS_AND_INVALIDbellatlantic.netINVALI D> wrote in message news:<igSrc.4849$yc4.543@nwrdny02.gnilink.net>...
> Have you confirmed that this is travel speed related, and not engine speed
> related? For example, if you shift in to 2, and get the rpms to about the
> same place (as they are at 55mph in 4th gear), can you ever get this
> behavior? If you don't have a tach, you'll have to do it by ear.
>
> Does the speedometer ever jump around? Is your Check Engine light lit?
>
> -Arthur
>
>
> Adam wrote:
> > Thanks for looking,
> > Like I said 92 Accord (auto) about 155,000 I bought it around 150,000,
> > and have no problems yet. Only when I get to about 55 or 60 MPH does
> > the tach bob up and down speratically about 100- as much as 300 RPMS,
> > but not when I get past about 70 or 75. Some days it does it and some
> > days it doesn't. Obviosly when ever I get someone in the car to show
> > them it never does. What could this be? Also for all you Accord
> > owners out there. I have the 2.2 engine what is the avg. RPMS when
> > going 60 flat?
> >
> > Thanks
> > -Adam

Adam,

Please read out the check engine light codes
( procedure here: http://home.earthlink.net/~michaelpkeefe/ )

Even when the light is off, the ECU will remember the codes, so you don't
have to wait for it to come on again.

At this point, I'm guessing that your igniter is dying (the igniter is a
solid state switch with some logic around it that switches current to the
ignition coil. It lives inside the distributor housing on your car.) The
DTC that you read out should help.

-Arthur

Adam wrote:

> Thanks for the response. I will try that and get back to you all.
> Speedo doesn't jump around at all so I am thinking it is some type of
> belt slipping of some sorts. The Check engine light someimes comes on
> but when I turn off the car and then back on it does not come on. It
> is spuratic it is more off then it is on. I am showing an ABS light
> though but I don't think the two are related
> P.S. Please respond to the post or email me at Adam@Witek.net
>
>
>
> Arthur Russell <atr@REMOVE_CAPS_AND_INVALIDbellatlantic.netINVALI D> wrote in message news:<igSrc.4849$yc4.543@nwrdny02.gnilink.net>...
>
>>Have you confirmed that this is travel speed related, and not engine speed
>>related? For example, if you shift in to 2, and get the rpms to about the
>>same place (as they are at 55mph in 4th gear), can you ever get this
>>behavior? If you don't have a tach, you'll have to do it by ear.
>>
>>Does the speedometer ever jump around? Is your Check Engine light lit?
>>
>>-Arthur
>>
>>
>>Adam wrote:
>>
>>>Thanks for looking,
>>>Like I said 92 Accord (auto) about 155,000 I bought it around 150,000,
>>>and have no problems yet. Only when I get to about 55 or 60 MPH does
>>>the tach bob up and down speratically about 100- as much as 300 RPMS,
>>>but not when I get past about 70 or 75. Some days it does it and some
>>>days it doesn't. Obviosly when ever I get someone in the car to show
>>>them it never does. What could this be? Also for all you Accord
>>>owners out there. I have the 2.2 engine what is the avg. RPMS when
>>>going 60 flat?
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>-Adam

As for rpms at 60mph, these are from the 91 Accord Helm book for the non-EX
trim version, and should apply to you:

Stock tires P185/70 14" put you at (if I did this right) 185mm*0.70(aspect
ratio)/25.4(mm/in)*pi=24.2" diameter, or 76" circumference.
At 60 this is 833.5 (tire) rpm.

Final drive ratio is 4.285:1, and 4th gear is 0.674:1, your torque
converter is locked, so that puts your engine rpms at 2407.

-Arthur

Adam wrote:

> Thanks for looking,
> Like I said 92 Accord (auto) about 155,000 I bought it around 150,000,
> and have no problems yet. Only when I get to about 55 or 60 MPH does
> the tach bob up and down speratically about 100- as much as 300 RPMS,
> but not when I get past about 70 or 75. Some days it does it and some
> days it doesn't. Obviosly when ever I get someone in the car to show
> them it never does. What could this be? Also for all you Accord
> owners out there. I have the 2.2 engine what is the avg. RPMS when
> going 60 flat?
>
> Thanks
> -Adam

AWESOME.

Thank you for your help. Today I figured out that this problem only
occurs when I am in 4 gear going about 60-65 mph. I will try and get
the codes tommorow.

THANKS!
Adam

Arthur Russell <atr@REMOVE_CAPS_AND_INVALIDbellatlantic.netINVALI D> wrote in message news:<nISsc.19905$rb.2192@nwrdny03.gnilink.net>...
> As for rpms at 60mph, these are from the 91 Accord Helm book for the non-EX
> trim version, and should apply to you:
>
> Stock tires P185/70 14" put you at (if I did this right) 185mm*0.70(aspect
> ratio)/25.4(mm/in)*pi=24.2" diameter, or 76" circumference.
> At 60 this is 833.5 (tire) rpm.
>
> Final drive ratio is 4.285:1, and 4th gear is 0.674:1, your torque
> converter is locked, so that puts your engine rpms at 2407.
>
> -Arthur
>
> Adam wrote:
>
> > Thanks for looking,
> > Like I said 92 Accord (auto) about 155,000 I bought it around 150,000,
> > and have no problems yet. Only when I get to about 55 or 60 MPH does
> > the tach bob up and down speratically about 100- as much as 300 RPMS,
> > but not when I get past about 70 or 75. Some days it does it and some
> > days it doesn't. Obviosly when ever I get someone in the car to show
> > them it never does. What could this be? Also for all you Accord
> > owners out there. I have the 2.2 engine what is the avg. RPMS when
> > going 60 flat?
> >
> > Thanks
> > -Adam

Arthur Russell <atr@REMOVE_CAPS_AND_INVALIDbellatlantic.netINVALI D> wrote in message news:<Mcysc.15486$4%3.5395@nwrdny01.gnilink.net>.. .
> Adam,
>
> Please read out the check engine light codes
> ( procedure here: http://home.earthlink.net/~michaelpkeefe/ )

Hi Arthur,

Off topic, but I'm just skimming threads, gleaning info which I might
think later useful. I just purchased a '93 Accord LX 5 Spd with 136
KMi and so am particularly interested in your experiences with your
'93 Acc: please consider leaving all information relating to your old
car up on your site, thanks!

I wanted to ask if you'd experienced any rust around the rear
wheelwells and a few other questions, but I should start a new thread
to do so, please look out for it..

CJ

Whoo hooo! No, that's not my site. I got a new kid, and a freakin demanding
job. Even if I had the time, I'm not up on web coding. Mine's a 91 also, by
the way, but they're all the same (90-93) pretty much.

I'd write articles for someone who had the time to integrate them into a
site, but that's a bit much to ask. I like Grant's new site...still posting
for professionals-only though.

OK, I'll watch for your new thread. I got a rust issue too, maybe I'll
side-thread it.

Arthur

uphilldoggie wrote:

> Arthur Russell <atr@REMOVE_CAPS_AND_INVALIDbellatlantic.netINVALI D> wrote in message news:<Mcysc.15486$4%3.5395@nwrdny01.gnilink.net>.. .
>
>>Adam,
>>
>>Please read out the check engine light codes
>>( procedure here: http://home.earthlink.net/~michaelpkeefe/ )
>
>
> Hi Arthur,
>
> Off topic, but I'm just skimming threads, gleaning info which I might
> think later useful. I just purchased a '93 Accord LX 5 Spd with 136
> KMi and so am particularly interested in your experiences with your
> '93 Acc: please consider leaving all information relating to your old
> car up on your site, thanks!
>
> I wanted to ask if you'd experienced any rust around the rear
> wheelwells and a few other questions, but I should start a new thread
> to do so, please look out for it..
>
> CJ

Excellent. I am finally getting somewhere. I got the code and now am
in a stuck position. The code I got was 12 and I am positive of that
I checked it about 10 times. This could relate to the problem I have
been having with my ABS light. When ever I turn the car on it is off
but once I start to move the ABS light turns on. I have no idea if
these 2 are the same. I checked on that websites chart and it didn't
have a 12 (Just my luck) I will do some more searching and get back to
you guys.

THANKS
Adam

Arthur Russell <atr@REMOVE_CAPS_AND_INVALIDbellatlantic.netINVALI D> wrote in message news:<Mcysc.15486$4%3.5395@nwrdny01.gnilink.net>.. .
> Adam,
>
> Please read out the check engine light codes
> ( procedure here: http://home.earthlink.net/~michaelpkeefe/ )
>
> Even when the light is off, the ECU will remember the codes, so you don't
> have to wait for it to come on again.
>
> At this point, I'm guessing that your igniter is dying (the igniter is a
> solid state switch with some logic around it that switches current to the
> ignition coil. It lives inside the distributor housing on your car.) The
> DTC that you read out should help.
>
> -Arthur
>
> Adam wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the response. I will try that and get back to you all.
> > Speedo doesn't jump around at all so I am thinking it is some type of
> > belt slipping of some sorts. The Check engine light someimes comes on
> > but when I turn off the car and then back on it does not come on. It
> > is spuratic it is more off then it is on. I am showing an ABS light
> > though but I don't think the two are related
> > P.S. Please respond to the post or email me at Adam@Witek.net
> >
> >
> >
> > Arthur Russell <atr@REMOVE_CAPS_AND_INVALIDbellatlantic.netINVALI D> wrote in message news:<igSrc.4849$yc4.543@nwrdny02.gnilink.net>...
> >
> >>Have you confirmed that this is travel speed related, and not engine speed
> >>related? For example, if you shift in to 2, and get the rpms to about the
> >>same place (as they are at 55mph in 4th gear), can you ever get this
> >>behavior? If you don't have a tach, you'll have to do it by ear.
> >>
> >>Does the speedometer ever jump around? Is your Check Engine light lit?
> >>
> >>-Arthur
> >>
> >>

Eh' crap. I just check the "back up radio" fuse (7.5) and it was
blown so I replaced it with a 15. Is this going to be a problem?

Thanks
Adam

PballwakeguitarL@Yahoo.com (Adam) wrote in message news:<d74bb4e2.0405261918.8276c85@posting.google.c om>...
> AWESOME.
>
> Thank you for your help. Today I figured out that this problem only
> occurs when I am in 4 gear going about 60-65 mph. I will try and get
> the codes tommorow.
>
> THANKS!
> Adam
>
> Arthur Russell <atr@REMOVE_CAPS_AND_INVALIDbellatlantic.netINVALI D> wrote in message news:<nISsc.19905$rb.2192@nwrdny03.gnilink.net>...
> > As for rpms at 60mph, these are from the 91 Accord Helm book for the non-EX
> > trim version, and should apply to you:
> >
> > Stock tires P185/70 14" put you at (if I did this right) 185mm*0.70(aspect
> > ratio)/25.4(mm/in)*pi=24.2" diameter, or 76" circumference.
> > At 60 this is 833.5 (tire) rpm.
> >
> > Final drive ratio is 4.285:1, and 4th gear is 0.674:1, your torque
> > converter is locked, so that puts your engine rpms at 2407.
> >
> > -Arthur
> >
> > Adam wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks for looking,
> > > Like I said 92 Accord (auto) about 155,000 I bought it around 150,000,
> > > and have no problems yet. Only when I get to about 55 or 60 MPH does
> > > the tach bob up and down speratically about 100- as much as 300 RPMS,
> > > but not when I get past about 70 or 75. Some days it does it and some
> > > days it doesn't. Obviosly when ever I get someone in the car to show
> > > them it never does. What could this be? Also for all you Accord
> > > owners out there. I have the 2.2 engine what is the avg. RPMS when
> > > going 60 flat?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > -Adam