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Hey Folks,

Just last year I had some 15x6.5 (19lbs) rims and P195 55
Yokohama Avid T4's put on my '99 Civic 4door EX which originally came with
14x6.5 (steel rims), P185 65 Firestones.

But since then, I've been getting an audible creak from the rear of the car.
It is always audible if I make a turn on an incline (hilly surface), making
a turn over a pothole, or especially when there is allot of wieght in the
rear seats (which normally wouldnt be a problem with my stock wheels).

*My reasoning is, that the rear tires are hitting the wheel well? OR that
the rims maybe too light which is what is causing the creak\squeek?

*A friend's reasoning was that it maybe from the stock shocks?

*Honda is telling me to bring it in, but you know what that means, a big
long bill at the end of the day :S


Thanks in advance.

On Thu, 20 May 2004 16:32:05 GMT, "Rick" <senrick@rogers.com> wrote:

>Hey Folks,
>
> Just last year I had some 15x6.5 (19lbs) rims and P195 55
>Yokohama Avid T4's put on my '99 Civic 4door EX which originally came with
>14x6.5 (steel rims), P185 65 Firestones.
>
>But since then, I've been getting an audible creak from the rear of the car.
>It is always audible if I make a turn on an incline (hilly surface), making
>a turn over a pothole, or especially when there is allot of wieght in the
>rear seats (which normally wouldnt be a problem with my stock wheels).
>
>*My reasoning is, that the rear tires are hitting the wheel well? OR that
>the rims maybe too light which is what is causing the creak\squeek?

I don't think so - there's ample clearance for 195 and I don't see why
light wheels have anything to do with it.

>*A friend's reasoning was that it maybe from the stock shocks?
>
>*Honda is telling me to bring it in, but you know what that means, a big
>long bill at the end of the day :S

Yeah, they'll tell you they have this super Corning grease they can put in
the bushings to quiet them, which involves taking it all apart - it's BS.

Every Honda I've owned has a creak from the suspension - more in the rear
but occasionally it happens in front too. For some models they came up
with a sleeve which fits over the last two coils of the springs and that's
where I've traced it too: as the epoxy coating on the springs wears away at
the point of contact with the spring perch on the shock absorber you
eventually get metal rubbing against metal. It comes and goes with the
weather - gets worse after rain when a film of rust is present. I just
live with it - try spraying some spray grease in the spring perch to see if
it goes away for a while.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

George, Thanks for your input on the matter


"George Macdonald" <fammacd=!SPAM^nothanks@tellurian.com> wrote in message
news:54cra0plm923louvj9ok2n7dge17ohh77q@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 20 May 2004 16:32:05 GMT, "Rick" <senrick@rogers.com> wrote:
>
> >Hey Folks,
> >
> > Just last year I had some 15x6.5 (19lbs) rims and P195 55
> >Yokohama Avid T4's put on my '99 Civic 4door EX which originally came
with
> >14x6.5 (steel rims), P185 65 Firestones.
> >
> >But since then, I've been getting an audible creak from the rear of the
car.
> >It is always audible if I make a turn on an incline (hilly surface),
making
> >a turn over a pothole, or especially when there is allot of wieght in the
> >rear seats (which normally wouldnt be a problem with my stock wheels).
> >
> >*My reasoning is, that the rear tires are hitting the wheel well? OR that
> >the rims maybe too light which is what is causing the creak\squeek?
>
> I don't think so - there's ample clearance for 195 and I don't see why
> light wheels have anything to do with it.
>
> >*A friend's reasoning was that it maybe from the stock shocks?
> >
> >*Honda is telling me to bring it in, but you know what that means, a big
> >long bill at the end of the day :S
>
> Yeah, they'll tell you they have this super Corning grease they can put in
> the bushings to quiet them, which involves taking it all apart - it's BS.
>
> Every Honda I've owned has a creak from the suspension - more in the rear
> but occasionally it happens in front too. For some models they came up
> with a sleeve which fits over the last two coils of the springs and that's
> where I've traced it too: as the epoxy coating on the springs wears away
at
> the point of contact with the spring perch on the shock absorber you
> eventually get metal rubbing against metal. It comes and goes with the
> weather - gets worse after rain when a film of rust is present. I just
> live with it - try spraying some spray grease in the spring perch to see
if
> it goes away for a while.
>
> Rgds, George Macdonald
>
> "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who,
me??

In article
<945rc.90121$0qd.39940@twister01.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com>, "Rick"
<senrick@rogers.com> wrote:

> Hey Folks,
>
> Just last year I had some 15x6.5 (19lbs) rims and P195 55
> Yokohama Avid T4's put on my '99 Civic 4door EX which originally came with
> 14x6.5 (steel rims), P185 65 Firestones.
>
> But since then, I've been getting an audible creak from the rear of the car.
> It is always audible if I make a turn on an incline (hilly surface), making
> a turn over a pothole, or especially when there is allot of wieght in the
> rear seats (which normally wouldnt be a problem with my stock wheels).
>
> *My reasoning is, that the rear tires are hitting the wheel well? OR that
> the rims maybe too light which is what is causing the creak\squeek?
>
> *A friend's reasoning was that it maybe from the stock shocks?
>
> *Honda is telling me to bring it in, but you know what that means, a big
> long bill at the end of the day :S
>
>
> Thanks in advance.

I've had a similar situation with my 95EX Civic almost since new. One of
these days I may get serious about locating the problem. I did stumble
upon a Civic TSB covering rear suspension clunking noise due to a broken
rear trailing arm bushing. Might be of interest. Whether this is a common
problem, I don't know. Here's the TSB link in PDF...

http://www.hondalac.com/service/Bulletins/x00-006e.pdf

--
Mike

>>
>> Every Honda I've owned has a creak from the suspension - more in the
>> rear but occasionally it happens in front too. For some models they
>> came up with a sleeve which fits over the last two coils of the
>> springs and that's where I've traced it too: as the epoxy coating on
>> the springs wears away
> at
>> the point of contact with the spring perch on the shock absorber you
>> eventually get metal rubbing against metal. It comes and goes with
>> the weather - gets worse after rain when a film of rust is present.
>> I just live with it - try spraying some spray grease in the spring
>> perch to see
> if
>> it goes away for a while.
>>
>> Rgds, George Macdonald
>>
>> "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" -
>> Who,
> me??
>
>


my japan built euro 99 civic squeaks too, especially when cold

as long as it runs i'll be happy with it

marcel

Mike, thanks for your input. Only thing is its not really a "clunk" as
Honda's service bulletin
describes. Its an annoying "creak" that occurs, and is even worse when I get
heavy passengers sitting in the back :S

Thanks once again



"Mike" <mike-r@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:mike-r-2105042230340001@user-2iveli6.dialup.mindspring.com...
> In article
> <945rc.90121$0qd.39940@twister01.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com>, "Rick"
> <senrick@rogers.com> wrote:
>
> > Hey Folks,
> >
> > Just last year I had some 15x6.5 (19lbs) rims and P195
55
> > Yokohama Avid T4's put on my '99 Civic 4door EX which originally came
with
> > 14x6.5 (steel rims), P185 65 Firestones.
> >
> > But since then, I've been getting an audible creak from the rear of the
car.
> > It is always audible if I make a turn on an incline (hilly surface),
making
> > a turn over a pothole, or especially when there is allot of wieght in
the
> > rear seats (which normally wouldnt be a problem with my stock wheels).
> >
> > *My reasoning is, that the rear tires are hitting the wheel well? OR
that
> > the rims maybe too light which is what is causing the creak\squeek?
> >
> > *A friend's reasoning was that it maybe from the stock shocks?
> >
> > *Honda is telling me to bring it in, but you know what that means, a big
> > long bill at the end of the day :S
> >
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
>
> I've had a similar situation with my 95EX Civic almost since new. One of
> these days I may get serious about locating the problem. I did stumble
> upon a Civic TSB covering rear suspension clunking noise due to a broken
> rear trailing arm bushing. Might be of interest. Whether this is a common
> problem, I don't know. Here's the TSB link in PDF...
>
> http://www.hondalac.com/service/Bulletins/x00-006e.pdf
>
> --
> Mike