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In article <vv62a0dl42cbvvohav49uelfhe443utcpe@4ax.com>, me6@privacy.net
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> What Honda model has the best gas mileage OTHER than the hybrid?
>
The Civic EX has the 1.7 Liter engine has decent HP and gets 38/31.
Almost went for the hybrid, but acceleration felt much slower,the trunk
space is really compromised, and I must have a sun roof.


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Gerald Fay <gejfay_____remove___@comcast.net> wrote:
> Almost went for the hybrid, but acceleration felt much slower,the trunk
> space is really compromised, and I must have a sun roof.

"really compromised"? I wouldn't have noticed, if it hadn't been pointed
out. I miss the folding rear seat, which I suppose could be called trunk
space, but the battery pack just isn't that large.

I don't like sun roofs. I need a four door.
I think the acceleration is better than an LX, in nominal usage. Under
heavy acceleration, the Hybrid might be slower, but typical pickup away
from a stop is quieter and smoother in the hybrid with CVT than in an LX
with automatic.

Maybe that's why Honda sells different models. ;-)

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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8-122.5

Gerald Fay wrote:

> In article <vv62a0dl42cbvvohav49uelfhe443utcpe@4ax.com>, me6@privacy.net
> says...
>
>>What Honda model has the best gas mileage OTHER than the hybrid?
>>
>
> The Civic EX has the 1.7 Liter engine has decent HP and gets 38/31.
> Almost went for the hybrid, but acceleration felt much slower,the trunk
> space is really compromised, and I must have a sun roof.

THe EX is liek a Corolla, mileage-wise - about 30-32 mpg in real world
driving. The HX gets about 35-38, and the Hybrid, 40-42.

The HX is the no-brainer choice, IMO - less money and almost the
same mileage. The CVT is also a lot less problematic by nature
than a normal automatic transmission.

In article <EdApc.1934$SZ4.454@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.n et>,
josephoberlander@earthlink.net says...
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>
> Gerald Fay wrote:
>
> > In article <vv62a0dl42cbvvohav49uelfhe443utcpe@4ax.com>, me6@privacy.net
> > says...
> >
> >>What Honda model has the best gas mileage OTHER than the hybrid?
> >>
> >
> > The Civic EX has the 1.7 Liter engine has decent HP and gets 38/31.
> > Almost went for the hybrid, but acceleration felt much slower,the trunk
> > space is really compromised, and I must have a sun roof.
>
> THe EX is liek a Corolla, mileage-wise - about 30-32 mpg in real world
> driving. The HX gets about 35-38, and the Hybrid, 40-42.
>
> The HX is the no-brainer choice, IMO - less money and almost the
> same mileage. The CVT is also a lot less problematic by nature
> than a normal automatic transmission.
>
>
Please don't tell me I will have any problems with the EX automatic
transmission in the 150,000 miles I hope to put on this puppy.

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Gerald Fay
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Gerald Fay wrote:


>>The HX is the no-brainer choice, IMO - less money and almost the
>>same mileage. The CVT is also a lot less problematic by nature
>>than a normal automatic transmission.
>>
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>
> Please don't tell me I will have any problems with the EX automatic
> transmission in the 150,000 miles I hope to put on this puppy.

Heh. No, just that they are more costly and have more moving
parts by nature. OTOH, Honda makes decent transmissions.

>> What Honda model has the best gas mileage OTHER than the hybrid?

or a 3 door civic 1.5 vtec-e, as sold in europe
1.5 vtec engine for economic use
it does 17,5 km on 1 litre of gas

marcel

In article <EdApc.1934$SZ4.454@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.n et>,
Joseph Oberlander <josephoberlander@earthlink.net> wrote:
>The HX is the no-brainer choice, IMO - less money and almost the
>same mileage.

But only available in a 2-door coupe for some reason. More doors
and/or a hatch would help in terms of utility.

>The CVT is also a lot less problematic by nature
>than a normal automatic transmission.

A manual transmission should improve fuel economy with any of the
Civic models, as well as costing less to buy.

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The Civic EX has a MOONroof,not a sunroof.(There is a
difference).Sunroofs are typically larger so that a person can stand up
through them.The moonroof is just a small sliding/tilt up window that
provides extra natural interior light through sunlight and some
ventilation.MOST(not all) sunroofs also do not activate
electrically;they are removed as an add-on panel feature and usually
opaque.
The moonroof in the EX also has an interior shade that can be pulled
across so that you can "hide" the moonroof from the inside.

In article <7837-40B02CC7-28@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net>, SAC441
@webtv.net says...
> The Civic EX has a MOONroof,not a sunroof.(There is a
> difference).Sunroofs are typically larger so that a person can stand up
> through them.The moonroof is just a small sliding/tilt up window that
> provides extra natural interior light through sunlight and some
> ventilation.MOST(not all) sunroofs also do not activate

I quess you would call it a soon roof <g>
It does slide all the way back, but is electrical.
Moon/Sunroofs I also find improve ventilation on a warm day so here in
the Northwest I don't need to use airconditioning as much.


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Gerald Fay
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Timothy J. Lee <remove22@sonic.net> wrote:

> A manual transmission should improve fuel economy with any of the
> Civic models, as well as costing less to buy.

I find that the CVT is a good complement to the Hybrid.
I would not be able to get better mileage with a stick.

I have spoken to people who have owned both and they confirm that the CVT
gives better mileage in real world driving.

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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8-122.5