Honda Car Forum

> Diesel is currently at $2.33 a gallon, regular gas at $2.19, so that would
> hurt market entry today as well.

Diesel in Europe is taxed less than gasoline. When I was in Italy a
couple of week ago, we figured that regular gasoline was $5/gal and
that diesel was $4/gal. Just about every other car was a diesel.

Lynn

me6@privacy.net wrote:
> So in fact you ARE getting great gas mileage then. Correct?

When I whine about my mileage dropping below 45 my wife has no sympathy.

We want to be the first kids on the block with a Ford Escape Hybrid so we
can dump the 14mpg Dodge Durango.

I am very pleased with my Civic Hybrid. The mileage is a big plus, but I
like the car beyond just the mileage. It is smooth and quiet. The CVT and
Hybrid work so well that it is a far different car than the gas-only Civic.

If the Pilot was available in a Hybrid, we would buy one.
We are putting $200 per month worth of gasoline into the Dodge. If we
could spend $140 of that toward a new vehicle, and $70 toward gas, that
would be a great thing. She needs more interior volume than the Civic
provides. I'm trying to convince her that the Escape is big enough. She's
not convinced, and will probably get a small enclosed trailer to go with
it.

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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8-122.5

On Wed, 12 May 2004 18:53:47 +0000 (UTC), dold@BestXmilea.usenet.us.com <dold@BestXmilea.usenet.us.com> wrote:
>me6@privacy.net wrote:
>> So in fact you ARE getting great gas mileage then. Correct?

>When I whine about my mileage dropping below 45 my wife has no sympathy.

>We want to be the first kids on the block with a Ford Escape Hybrid so we
>can dump the 14mpg Dodge Durango.

>I am very pleased with my Civic Hybrid. The mileage is a big plus, but I
>like the car beyond just the mileage. It is smooth and quiet. The CVT and
>Hybrid work so well that it is a far different car than the gas-only Civic.

>If the Pilot was available in a Hybrid, we would buy one.
And it like the civic will never save enough in fuel costs to repay
the extra initial expense.



>We are putting $200 per month worth of gasoline into the Dodge. If we
>could spend $140 of that toward a new vehicle, and $70 toward gas, that
>would be a great thing. She needs more interior volume than the Civic
>provides. I'm trying to convince her that the Escape is big enough. She's
>not convinced, and will probably get a small enclosed trailer to go with
>it.

>The CVT and
>Hybrid work so well that it is a far different car than the gas-only Civic.

Good point!

Thanks

dold@BestXmilea.usenet.us.com wrote:

> me6@privacy.net wrote:
>
>>So in fact you ARE getting great gas mileage then. Correct?
>
>
> When I whine about my mileage dropping below 45 my wife has no sympathy.
>
> We want to be the first kids on the block with a Ford Escape Hybrid so we
> can dump the 14mpg Dodge Durango.
>
> I am very pleased with my Civic Hybrid. The mileage is a big plus, but I
> like the car beyond just the mileage. It is smooth and quiet. The CVT and
> Hybrid work so well that it is a far different car than the gas-only Civic.
>
> If the Pilot was available in a Hybrid, we would buy one.

Get one of the new Lexus Hybrids. It's the SUV to get, IMO, as
30mpg will really pay for itself fast. $100 a month towards gas
that you save adds up fast.

TCS <The-Central-Scrutinizer@p.o.b.o.x.com> wrote:
>>If the Pilot was available in a Hybrid, we would buy one.
> And it like the civic will never save enough in fuel costs to repay
> the extra initial expense.

That's the same troll line you toss out every time the Hybrid is mentioned.
I have already recouped the difference in price. YMMV.

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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8-122.5

dold@BestXmilea.usenet.us.com wrote in message news:<c7tbmg$qeq$2@blue.rahul.net>...
> me6@privacy.net wrote:
> > Hmm....Im getting conflicting info on the gas mileage of hybrids.
> > Some say they aren't living up to their claimed high mileage. True?
>
> 2003 Civic Hybrid CVT automatic. San Jose, CA to Benicia, CA.
> 60mph cruise control, 59.0 miles, 59.0 mpg.
> 70mph cruise control, 59.0 miles, 52.0 mpg.
> http://www.rahul.net/dold/clarence/Honda_Mileage.htm
>
I like what you've done here. I actually started a spreadsheet
similar to yours to track the gallons, mileage, and cost of gas on my
Accord. I always said I'd do something like that when I bought brand
new car.

||In the US, the common diesel fuel is high in sulfur, which is different
||from Europe.

I think that's about to change. New regulations coming to reduce sulphur. Should
open up the market for Euro-style high-efficiency diesels.
Texas Parts Guy

Except the turbo diesel gets either zero or infinite gas mileage depending
on how you look at it, since diesel isn't gasoline.
;P


"Lynn McGuire" <NOSPAM.winsim@NOSPAM.winsim.com> wrote in message
news:40a126bd$0$17092$811e409b@news.mylinuxisp.com ...
> > What Honda model has the best gas mileage OTHER than the hybrid?
>
> The new turdo diesel accord that they are shipping in Europe since
> January of this year.
>
> Lynn
>
>

The Honda Civic HX Coupe has an EPA rating of 36/44.
It has a 1.7L VTEC engine designed especially for fuel efficiency.
The engine is rated at 117 hp which is 10hp less then the EX model
and equavilent to the 115hp form in the value package and LX models.
Prices are:
5 speed manual continuously variable automatic
without front side airbags $13,710 $14,710
with front side airebags $13,960 $14,960

Standard features include:
* power mirrors and door locks
* AM/FM/CD stereo with 4 speakers
* cruise control
* tachometer

This is a great commuter car. It is also $5k less then the hybrid.
The only downside is that it is only available as a 2 door coupe.

Find out more here:
http://www.hondacars.com/models/mode...me=Civic+Coupe




me6@privacy.net wrote:
>
> What Honda model has the best gas mileage OTHER than the hybrid?