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I have a 1990 accord with ONLY 138000 miles . I changed the starter 3 years
ago.
I heard a "marble noise chatter" at idle and it subsides at high rpm . I
searched around with my stephescope and found the cause. There are welds which
holds the ring type gear to the torque converter. ( the one that the starter
engages) the weld on one of them broke free .Has any one had this problems? I
put in a new starter in 3 years ago. Is it old age or is it the aftermarket
starters fault. There is no shims to adjust so I assume I put the starter in
correctly. I am MIG welding them since only one of the weld actually broke
free. I do see hairline cracks on some of the other welds. I drove it 300 miles
until I figure out the noise. Now i am spending time on my back welding them
back so I dont have to take the tranny out. Just curious if this is a common
old age disease

"Moopic" <moopic@aol.com> wrote in message
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> I have a 1990 accord with ONLY 138000 miles . I changed the starter 3
years
> ago.
> I heard a "marble noise chatter" at idle and it subsides at high rpm . I
> searched around with my stephescope and found the cause. There are welds
which
> holds the ring type gear to the torque converter.

never heard of this before.

"mike" <mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<fsZmc.49638$Ik.3564143@attbi_s53>...
> "Moopic" <moopic@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20040507222452.10652.00000830@mb-m27.aol.com...
> > I have a 1990 accord with ONLY 138000 miles . I changed the starter 3
> years
> > ago.
> > I heard a "marble noise chatter" at idle and it subsides at high rpm . I
> > searched around with my stephescope and found the cause. There are welds
> which
> > holds the ring type gear to the torque converter.
>
> never heard of this before.

it happens all the time with aftermarket starters that the gear
moves out too far and slams into the flywheel.
Chip

Next time I should buy a rebuilt starter so I get Honda metal casting ?

You think the starter " has worn in" ? or do you think it will break the new
welds?

I see why american cars use shims on their starters and the flywheel is a plate
and not welded on .