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I have 4 tires on my car that have worn unevenly and I'd like them to last
at least the next 6 months. Problem is 2 of them are pretty worn and I was
told by one place that they wouldn't last me the summer and another place
that they would if I put the more worn tires on the back. I had them take
off my winter tires and they put these on but they put the more worn tires
in the front saying that all the weight is in the front so it's better to
have the tires with more thread in the back to avoid fish tailing. The guy I
spoke to before this one told me it was better to have the more worn tires
in the back so they would last longer. Anyone know what the proper thing to
do is? I'd like to avoid a blow out so should I put the more worn tires in
the back instead of where they are now. I'd say there's about 5 or 6mm of
thread left.

Can anyone tell me what could cause uneven wear? I do tire rotations at
every 12-15,000 KM. I usually do it every 3rd oil change. Could it be
because I never had an alignment done? The car is 7 years old and I've never
had any problems with pulling to one side or anything like that. The tires
that have uneven wear were put on at 63,000 km and now I have 112,000 km.
Take away 5,000 km from that because I put winter tires for the first time
last year. So I haven't even put 50,000 km and they need to be replaced??
These are decent GOODYEAR WEATHERHANDLER tires and not cheap 50 dollar ones
so I can't figure this out. One of the worn tires is more worn in the middle
then it is on the sides and the mechanic told me it's because I put too much
air. I always put 32psi which is what he said I had to put. I usually check
my air pressure once a month but during past winters it was hard to do
especially with -30C weather. Anyone else have problems with Goodyear tires?
I have a 97 Civic by the way.

Thanks in advance.

50000k from a set of tyres is pretty good value in my opinion.

"Slade" <Slade@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:c7dv37$8i3$1@news.eusc.inter.net...
> I have 4 tires on my car that have worn unevenly and I'd like them to last
> at least the next 6 months. Problem is 2 of them are pretty worn and I was
> told by one place that they wouldn't last me the summer and another place
> that they would if I put the more worn tires on the back. I had them take
> off my winter tires and they put these on but they put the more worn tires
> in the front saying that all the weight is in the front so it's better to
> have the tires with more thread in the back to avoid fish tailing. The guy
I
> spoke to before this one told me it was better to have the more worn tires
> in the back so they would last longer. Anyone know what the proper thing
to
> do is? I'd like to avoid a blow out so should I put the more worn tires in
> the back instead of where they are now. I'd say there's about 5 or 6mm of
> thread left.
>
> Can anyone tell me what could cause uneven wear? I do tire rotations at
> every 12-15,000 KM. I usually do it every 3rd oil change. Could it be
> because I never had an alignment done? The car is 7 years old and I've
never
> had any problems with pulling to one side or anything like that. The tires
> that have uneven wear were put on at 63,000 km and now I have 112,000 km.
> Take away 5,000 km from that because I put winter tires for the first time
> last year. So I haven't even put 50,000 km and they need to be replaced??
> These are decent GOODYEAR WEATHERHANDLER tires and not cheap 50 dollar
ones
> so I can't figure this out. One of the worn tires is more worn in the
middle
> then it is on the sides and the mechanic told me it's because I put too
much
> air. I always put 32psi which is what he said I had to put. I usually
check
> my air pressure once a month but during past winters it was hard to do
> especially with -30C weather. Anyone else have problems with Goodyear
tires?
> I have a 97 Civic by the way.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>

Slade wrote:
> I have 4 tires on my car that have worn unevenly and I'd like them to last
> at least the next 6 months. Problem is 2 of them are pretty worn and I was
> told by one place that they wouldn't last me the summer and another place
> that they would if I put the more worn tires on the back. I had them take
> off my winter tires and they put these on but they put the more worn tires
> in the front saying that all the weight is in the front so it's better to
> have the tires with more thread in the back to avoid fish tailing.

Well, it's summer now, so I don't think lack of grip and fishtailing
will be a problem for you.

The guy I
> spoke to before this one told me it was better to have the more worn tires
> in the back so they would last longer. Anyone know what the proper thing to
> do is? I'd like to avoid a blow out so should I put the more worn tires in
> the back instead of where they are now. I'd say there's about 5 or 6mm of
> thread left.
>
> Can anyone tell me what could cause uneven wear?

In a front wheel drive car, the front tires do accelerating,
decelerating and turning, so they wear faster.

I do tire rotations at
> every 12-15,000 KM. I usually do it every 3rd oil change. Could it be
> because I never had an alignment done?

yes, you can also prematurely wear out tires if the "toe" is wrong, i.e.
the tires are not parallel

The car is 7 years old and I've never
> had any problems with pulling to one side or anything like that. The tires
> that have uneven wear were put on at 63,000 km and now I have 112,000 km.
> Take away 5,000 km from that because I put winter tires for the first time
> last year. So I haven't even put 50,000 km and they need to be replaced??
> These are decent GOODYEAR WEATHERHANDLER tires and not cheap 50 dollar ones
> so I can't figure this out. One of the worn tires is more worn in the middle
> then it is on the sides and the mechanic told me it's because I put too much
> air.

That sounds about right

I always put 32psi which is what he said I had to put. I usually check
> my air pressure once a month but during past winters it was hard to do
> especially with -30C weather.

Maybe when you drive the tires heat up and expand?

One point about tire rotations.

If say one started with four brand new tires and they were rotated at
10,000km. Then the next rotation will be logically at 30,000km because at
20,000 the fronts in a FWD vehicle will have worn to be equal to the rear
now and since they are equal, why rotate? (They should be the same as the
first 10,00 the fronts which are now the rears got worn at a faster rate
than the back, which then got rotated and now the rears which are in the
front have worn by the same amount, assuming same driving style)

Is this logical to you guys? But almost all tire care guides will say rotate
at every 10,000km

Robin

> From: alan <no-longer-valid@yahoo.com>
> Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.honda
> Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 20:05:20 -0700
> Subject: Re: BETTER TIRES IN FRONT???
>
> Slade wrote:
>> I have 4 tires on my car that have worn unevenly and I'd like them to last
>> at least the next 6 months. Problem is 2 of them are pretty worn and I was
>> told by one place that they wouldn't last me the summer and another place
>> that they would if I put the more worn tires on the back. I had them take
>> off my winter tires and they put these on but they put the more worn tires
>> in the front saying that all the weight is in the front so it's better to
>> have the tires with more thread in the back to avoid fish tailing.
>
> Well, it's summer now, so I don't think lack of grip and fishtailing
> will be a problem for you.
>
> The guy I
>> spoke to before this one told me it was better to have the more worn tires
>> in the back so they would last longer. Anyone know what the proper thing to
>> do is? I'd like to avoid a blow out so should I put the more worn tires in
>> the back instead of where they are now. I'd say there's about 5 or 6mm of
>> thread left.
>>
>> Can anyone tell me what could cause uneven wear?
>
> In a front wheel drive car, the front tires do accelerating,
> decelerating and turning, so they wear faster.
>
> I do tire rotations at
>> every 12-15,000 KM. I usually do it every 3rd oil change. Could it be
>> because I never had an alignment done?
>
> yes, you can also prematurely wear out tires if the "toe" is wrong, i.e.
> the tires are not parallel
>
> The car is 7 years old and I've never
>> had any problems with pulling to one side or anything like that. The tires
>> that have uneven wear were put on at 63,000 km and now I have 112,000 km.
>> Take away 5,000 km from that because I put winter tires for the first time
>> last year. So I haven't even put 50,000 km and they need to be replaced??
>> These are decent GOODYEAR WEATHERHANDLER tires and not cheap 50 dollar ones
>> so I can't figure this out. One of the worn tires is more worn in the middle
>> then it is on the sides and the mechanic told me it's because I put too much
>> air.
>
> That sounds about right
>
> I always put 32psi which is what he said I had to put. I usually check
>> my air pressure once a month but during past winters it was hard to do
>> especially with -30C weather.
>
> Maybe when you drive the tires heat up and expand?
>

"Robin Long" <rlong@matrix-controls.com> wrote in message
news:BCC1E42A.5FD7%rlong@matrix-
> Is this logical to you guys? But almost all tire care guides will say
rotate
> at every 10,000km

Robin, that was an interesting thought. I thought about it some, and it does
seem logical if you look at it purely in terms of front vs back tire wear.
However, if you consider the effects of left vs right tire wear, then
rotating every 20K would result in twice as much uneven tire wear as
rotating every 10K.

If the front/back issue bothers you, then you can rotate a brand new set of
tires at 5K, then every 10K afterwards! =)


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