Honda Car Forum

Milleron <millerdot90@SPAMlessosu.edu> wrote in message news:<1ll59092q0na59pq4adp5714ggiocjs642@4ax.com>. ..
> On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 14:02:59 -0400, "Adrian Idzik" <idzika@rogers.com>
> wrote:
> Even when not wearing gloves, it usually
> requires a quick glance to move your hands from the usual 10-and-2
> driving position to those controls, ...

Ok, just to be silly, I have to point out that you should not really
have your hands at 10 and 2. It is widly accepted these days that the
more effective way to drive is with 'underhand' steering with the
hands at 4 and 9. In this position your hands never cross ala semi
driving style.

It is strange and totally different than the old 10 and 2 but it is
safer. Think about what would happen if your air bag deployed with
your arms crossed gripping the wheel Ouch!

-D

>It is strange and totally different than the old 10 and 2 but it is
>safer. Think about what would happen if your air bag deployed with
>your arms crossed gripping the wheel Ouch!

Huh? My hands were 10-2 when the airbag deployed and only suffered a small burn
on my right forearm.

10-2 is safer than 4-9.




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How to turn off 'Maintenance Required" light:

1. Hold trip/reset button on dash
2. Turn key to "ON" or start engine
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You're lucky you didn't give yourself a knuckle sandwich with your hands at
10-2 when the airbag deployed... your luck doesn't mean your are right.

I'd say 3-9 is the best...

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> 10-2 is safer than 4-9.
>
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> How to turn off 'Maintenance Required" light:
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> 1. Hold trip/reset button on dash
> 2. Turn key to "ON" or start engine
> 3. Hold button til light goes out
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On 11 May 2004 12:34:22 -0700, acctforjunk@yahoo.com (Im anonymous)
wrote:

>Milleron <millerdot90@SPAMlessosu.edu> wrote in message news:<sam590plj26q94u71stu4l4kj3mun7quqm@4ax.com>. ..
>> On 28 Apr 2004 15:08:59 -0700, pstuart03@hotmail.com (Paul Stuart)
>> wrote:
>>
>> >> Seems weird that Honda would not illuminate the controls on the
>> >> steering wheel but I don't seem to have it. Can anybody confirm this.
>> >
>> >One of the changes for 2005 Accords is that the steering-wheel audio and
>> >cruise controls will be illuminated with the parking/headlights.
>> >
>>
>> I think this shows that the MAJORITY has finally spoken.
>>
>> Ron
>
>Manufacturers make what people want....not necessarily what makes
>sense. If they're lighted, that means you must want to look at it.
>This involves taking your eyes off the road. Defeats the purpose
>doesn't it? Make sense??

Whew! The two sides of this debate are never going to reconcile this,
but to reply to your point here, I should think that illuminating the
controls does NOT mean that Honda has to remove the tactile
indicators. Nevertheless, it's my contention that all of us DO take
our eyes off the road to glance at the buttons whenever we move our
hands from the usual driving position to the buttons. I think that
even people who depend on the tactile indicators, and I am one, do
this rather than groping for them for a few seconds. It's just human
nature. Illumination of the controls therefore can mean taking your
eyes of the road for a briefer period, not a longer period. It does
not defeat the purpose. It does make sense.
Ron

On 11 May 2004 13:04:53 -0700, dep_blueman@yahoo.com (dep_blueman)
wrote:

>Milleron <millerdot90@SPAMlessosu.edu> wrote in message news:<1ll59092q0na59pq4adp5714ggiocjs642@4ax.com>. ..
>> On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 14:02:59 -0400, "Adrian Idzik" <idzika@rogers.com>
>> wrote:
>> Even when not wearing gloves, it usually
>> requires a quick glance to move your hands from the usual 10-and-2
>> driving position to those controls, ...
>
>Ok, just to be silly, I have to point out that you should not really
>have your hands at 10 and 2. It is widly accepted these days that the
>more effective way to drive is with 'underhand' steering with the
>hands at 4 and 9. In this position your hands never cross ala semi
>driving style.
>
>It is strange and totally different than the old 10 and 2 but it is
>safer. Think about what would happen if your air bag deployed with
>your arms crossed gripping the wheel Ouch!
>
>-D

Well, that's not silly. You may well be right about a safer position
although I've never heard of that. However this has no relevance to
the point I was making. One would still have to move hands from the
driving position to the "button position."
Ron

Milleron said...
> acctforjunk@yahoo.com (Im anonymous) wrote:
> >Milleron >...
> >> (Paul Stuart) wrote:
> >>
> >> >> Seems weird that Honda would not illuminate the controls on the
> >> >> steering wheel but I don't seem to have it. Can anybody confirm this.
> >> >
> >> >One of the changes for 2005 Accords is that the steering-wheel audio and
> >> >cruise controls will be illuminated with the parking/headlights.
> >> >
> >>
> >> I think this shows that the MAJORITY has finally spoken.
> >>
> >
> >Manufacturers make what people want....not necessarily what makes
> >sense. If they're lighted, that means you must want to look at it.
> >This involves taking your eyes off the road. Defeats the purpose
> >doesn't it? Make sense??
>
> Whew! The two sides of this debate are never going to reconcile this,
> but to reply to your point here, I should think that illuminating the
> controls does NOT mean that Honda has to remove the tactile
> indicators. Nevertheless, it's my contention that all of us DO take
> our eyes off the road to glance at the buttons whenever we move our
> hands from the usual driving position to the buttons. I think that
> even people who depend on the tactile indicators, and I am one, do
> this rather than groping for them for a few seconds. It's just human
> nature. Illumination of the controls therefore can mean taking your
> eyes of the road for a briefer period, not a longer period. It does
> not defeat the purpose. It does make sense.

It makes sense to me. I'd prefer they were lighted. I spend too much
time trying to find the right one in the dark. It would take less than
a second to glance down and find the right one. I take my eyes off the
road for a second or so to adjust the climate control, so I don't think
that's a big deal at all.


Casey