Honda Car Forum

>Trust me when I say it's high. I'm ready to pay the 6 month premium, 17
>year old driver, SoCal, full coverage, $1459./6 months. Oucheemama!
>

Which is why you should put the car in your name and add the minor to your
policy.


> >I would have thought any small compact
> >car to be fairly cheap to insure.
>
>Think again. The Civic Coupe is a ball buster.
>
>

No, it's not. It's the 17 year old that's the ball buster.





How to turn off 'Maintenance Required" light:

1. Hold trip/reset button on dash
2. Turn key to "ON" or start engine
3. Hold button til light goes out

In article <5q6l70p1ic1v84jjimdlpfgasiuegvjv9j@4ax.com>,
<me6@privacy.net> wrote:
>He cant drive a stick anyway. My nephew that is.

Why not teach him?

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In article <nn7l701u36gu22kj587doengspd857bdth@4ax.com>,
<me6@privacy.net> wrote:
>However....Im surprised to hear that a Civic coupe would be higher
>insurance. I would have thought any small compact car to be fairly
>cheap to insure.

Small cars often have unfavorable driver demographics (i.e. they attract
drivers who crash more often). Coupes are often more expensive to insure
than sedans for similar reasons. Wagons and minivans are often less
expensive to insure. But call your insurance company and ask for rates
before you decide which car to buy.

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Instead of whining about how expensive a car is to insure, they should think
about comparison shopping for insurance. In my case, I was quoted anywhere from
$1500-$4000 for my Lexus.

Few years back, I remember Saturn owners bragging about how low their insurance
rates were compared to Hondas.... but according to my own investigation, my
Acura Integra (2 door) was only about $130 a year more than a Saturn SC2. Since
I wouldn't be caught dead in an overpriced Sackofcrapurn, I was happy to buy
and drive a car I liked. Don't let insurance determine what you drive, if it
did, everyone would be driving a Ford Taurus!





How to turn off 'Maintenance Required" light:

1. Hold trip/reset button on dash
2. Turn key to "ON" or start engine
3. Hold button til light goes out

On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 08:56:04 -0500, me6@privacy.net wrote:

>>Need to look at insurance too. A Civic coupe will be high. I would look at
>>a used Accord 4-door (LX) with auto. Manuals can be a problem for some
>>youngsters -- either can't drive them well, or play sports car. I had one
>>young man boast to me how he could run his Prelude to 8500 rpm and it would
>>stay together. Dangerous living when the redline is 1000 rpm less. On the
>>other hand -- find a $ 4,500 domestic -- Buick Regal or the like and put
>>liability on it only. When it's ruined, the loss will be unimportant. I
>>guess it depends on how responsible your nephew is in taking care of car.
>>
>
>Well so far he is very responsible driver

IME insurance industry does not count responsibility of young drivers - age
just puts them in the "pool" along with everybody else.

>However....Im surprised to hear that a Civic coupe would be higher
>insurance. I would have thought any small compact car to be fairly
>cheap to insure.

Civic has a bad rap in the insurance industry because of the history of all
the boy-racer, stuff. It was just a popular car for young people to get
and then add "performance bits" as $$ became available. The new model may
change that since it's not so amenable to suspension tweaks but it may take
a bit of time for data to filter through the system.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

me6@privacy.net wrote:

>>My 240 cost me a whopping $300 in maintainence in one
>>year.
>
>
> Joseph.... I tend to agree with everything you said abt requirements
> of a good student car. heck maybe its what I should get as well...
> i.e. Vovo1
>
> But.... I think a Volvo might be a had sell to my nephew. He is
> wanting something a bit sportier looking than a boxy Volvo.

Of course. NO young person wants a Volvo 240.(evil grin)

OTOH, you're paying the bills. Let him save and get his own
hot-rod after college.

> such features are good. But I also recognize his desire to have
> something a bit better looking. After all he is 19..... lol

His desire is moot. When he can load a keg(oh, did I say, that? -
we all were there - lol) into the wagon and get to the party,
he'll appreciate it.

Or when he has to move across town. Or when he's going to that
rock concert and can take his sleeping bag and rough it.

Plus, it's actually retro AND - press this point, old mint
condition 240s are a girl magnet. They look "cute" and
attract the artsy types Man - that one red-head in college...
(well, that's another story...)

me6@privacy.net wrote:

>>Manual transmissions may be cheaper to repair PER BREAKDOWN
>>OCCURRENCE,but in my experience they were always breaking down more
>>often than any automatic transmission I have ever had.I would say that
>>automatics have a higher rate of reliability overall due to the fact
>>that you are not over-revving or under-revving the power bands as much.I
>>guess it has more to do with the driver and his driving style.Just an
>>opinion,as this can also vary by make and/or model of vehicle.
>
>
> He cant drive a stick anyway. My nephew that is.
>
> Im sorta ambivalent on the manual vs auto thing as well.
>
> I agree manuals are easier and cheaper to repair..... better gas
> mileage, etc. But Im like above poster in that a good manual often
> goes 100k plus mileage BEFORE it needs repairs.
>
> Plus he cant drive a stick ....and will be in heavy Kansas City
> traffic.

Time to learn The auto isn't bad, actually.

"Sackofcrapurn"... LOL!!! Excellent new word and fitting.

(BTW: HHR... one of your best yet! Love it. My stomach hurt I laughed so
hard. My brother had one of them and will love that word as well.... thank
you!)





"He Hate Retards" <drpimpdaddi@aol.com.FUdope> wrote in message
news:20040412133131.19765.00000264@mb-m10.aol.com...
> Instead of whining about how expensive a car is to insure, they should
think
> about comparison shopping for insurance. In my case, I was quoted anywhere
from
> $1500-$4000 for my Lexus.
>
> Few years back, I remember Saturn owners bragging about how low their
insurance
> rates were compared to Hondas.... but according to my own investigation,
my
> Acura Integra (2 door) was only about $130 a year more than a Saturn SC2.
Since
> I wouldn't be caught dead in an overpriced Sackofcrapurn, I was happy to
buy
> and drive a car I liked. Don't let insurance determine what you drive, if
it
> did, everyone would be driving a Ford Taurus!
>
>
>
>
>
> How to turn off 'Maintenance Required" light:
>
> 1. Hold trip/reset button on dash
> 2. Turn key to "ON" or start engine
> 3. Hold button til light goes out
>

ravelation wrote:

>
> From: me6@privacy.net wrote:
>
>
>>However....Im surprised to hear that a
>
> >Civic coupe would be higher insurance.
>
> Trust me when I say it's high. I'm ready to pay the 6 month premium, 17
> year old driver, SoCal, full coverage, $1459./6 months. Oucheemama!

Used does not require full coverage. Cash is good that way

Joseph Oberlander wrote:

>
>
> me6@privacy.net wrote:
>
>>> My 240 cost me a whopping $300 in maintainence in one
>>> year.
>>
>>
>>
>> Joseph.... I tend to agree with everything you said abt requirements
>> of a good student car. heck maybe its what I should get as well...
>> i.e. Vovo1
>>
>> But.... I think a Volvo might be a had sell to my nephew. He is
>> wanting something a bit sportier looking than a boxy Volvo.
>

A follwup - I was busy tonight.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2472709598
That's a typical low mileage example in mint condition.

The Anthracite Grey(I forget the exact color code/name) is perhaps
one of the most attractive colors to find one in - it really makes
the car look sharp. Compared to new cars, this also looks almost
retro.

Any car in this condition would make your son pleased as can be.
Mine was the same color but a sedan, in the exact same condition.
It felt like a new Mercedes every time I got into it - not a single
thing was wrong on it, scuffed, or broken. I had no problems
parking it at fancy locations, either. Yet, it was a Volvo 240
and I could get around and park it where I wanted without
fearing thieves.