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Old 08 Apr 2004, 07:03 am
George Macdonald
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On 8 Apr 2004 02:34:46 GMT, "Tegger®"
<teggeratistopdotcom@changetheobvious.invalid> wrote:

>George Macdonald <fammacd=!SPAM^nothanks@tellurian.com> spake unto the
>masses in news:fb2970pupecdp0i77ihq8hp5dkpon7tufb@4ax.com:
>
>> 1st gen had that
>> horrible strut front suspension with a longitudinal torsion bar<yugh>
>> in front, panhard rod solid axle in rear and the engine was just too
>> gutless - it was also worse at rusting of bodywork.

>
>
>
>Interesting that you should bring that up. Rust is a sort of hobby of mine
>on account of where I live (southern Ontario, Canada).
>
>------
>
>The '90-'93 Integra suffers from relatively little rust, with the '90s
>starting only in the last two years to look ratty.


My '92 is finally showing a bit of bubbling rust around the trailing edge
of the driver side rear wheel well - I didn't ever remove the rubber strip
thingy. The passenger side shows nothing yet.

>The Civic from '88 to '92 appears to have *much* worse rust than the
>Integra, and I wonder if the steel came from a different supplier. The rear
>edge of the rocker panels is often perforated, and I've seen outer rocker
>panels gone completely.


My '88 Integra had bubbling rust on that same trailing edge of rear wheel
well at 4 years and 48K miles!! The Civics of same years (mostly?) were
U.S. built and the Integra was Jap built so seems there's not much chance
of a "different supplier" being the factor here. I'd guess it might be
more to do with specs for steel panel dipping treatment before paint
application which was changed in Japan circa. '90 and then maybe later for
the U.S.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
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Old 08 Apr 2004, 08:05 pm
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"Mark Gonzales" <enter_my_name@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:c4shtn$6hm$2@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com...
> http://www.azcentral.com/business/ar...ivic25-ON.html
>
> "For years, Honda kept a hands-off attitude to the Civic customizing

craze,
> generally avoiding a direct marketing appeal to young enthusiasts, a group
> sometimes referred to in the industry as "the fast and furious," after a
> movie with that title that celebrated the import-car street-racing

culture.
> In 2001, Honda redesigned the Civic and made it more family-friendly and
> sedate, which in turn left the tuners feeling slighted."
>
> "Last summer, at an import-racing event in Irwindale, Calif., the crowd
> booed when the announcer mentioned Honda."
>
>
> Well, I guess I never had a problem with legitimate Civic tuners (although
> I've never understood it) but it seems you're all moving on. But can you
> take the ricers with you please?
>
> Ricers, Honda doesn't want you! Honda doesn't support you! Your

ill-fitting
> body parts, outrageous spoilers, and obnoxious exhausts are spoiling their
> image of refinement and perfection. Honda ask that you to go f up another
> kind of car (I personally recommended the Ford Focus) and leave the poor
> Civic alone!
>
> Honda, listen to Car & Driver when they note that the Civic is becoming a
> POS and START MAKING IT BETTER...
>

http://caranddriver.com/article.asp?...&page_number=5
>
> Well, actually they only called it a "loser".
>
> That is all.
> --
>
>
> Mark
> '99 Civic Si


Mark, check this one out: http://www.sounddomain.com/id/v6illusion

I definitely like what he did with the car. If I had the cash I'd do it
myself. The only thing that might be a bit overkill is the engine bay area
with matching colors and stuff. The rest though, I like.

That's not rice. That's looking damn good. The car doesn't "pretend" to go
faster than it is. It just looks sweet, IMO. No spoilers, no wings, no
nothing. Nice set of rims, nice choice of color, good HIDs for visibility,
etc. I like it.

--Viktor


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Old 13 Apr 2004, 06:29 pm
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On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 23:53:18 -0400, "Mark Gonzales"
<enter_my_name@comcast.net> wrote:

>Follow-up..
>========
>
>The first Hondas that REALLY caught my attention...
>http://www.velocityjournal.com/ip/stk/4142.html
>http://www.velocityjournal.com/ip/stk/4143.html
>
>They may look dated today, but in 1986, these cars were sharp!


Those first-gen Integra's were tight little cars. I remember
test-driving one and being very impressed. Too bad I couldn't afford
one at the time... 8(

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Old 13 Apr 2004, 06:35 pm
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On Tue, 6 Apr 2004 21:46:08 -0700, "electricked" <no_emails_please>
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>Why would you want to mod an S2K, NSX or Acuras? They've been highly tuned
>up, specifically made for recreational use, and already got enough "go-get"
>power, especially the S2K and NSX.


In your opinion. A lot of people want more. Hell, seems that most
Supra Turbo owners want more, and they start-out with 320HP.

>They've been made aerodynamic already so
>you don't need to put wings and whatnot.


LOL. Like the "wings" have ANYTHING to do with aerodynamics...

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Old 13 Apr 2004, 06:39 pm
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On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 15:20:47 -0400, Pars <"sdaro(remove)"@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Mark Gonzales wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I do like the new coupe's styling (exterior and interior) even if it has
>> softened up a bit. In some areas, the interior makes mine look Mickey Mouse.
>> I've always appreciated the Civics' safety record. But I've seen some
>> unHonda-like fit-and-finish flaws on both new Accords and Civics that has me
>> worried. QC needs to be raised up a notch, IMO.
>>
>> Does Crush ever stop in and say hello? ;-)

>
>The group was quite lively when he was around (even though he was a border line
>troll).


Border line?

>Haven't heard from him in several month. I guess he's found somewhere else to
>preach about Torque.


I think he finally realized that he was just too stupid.

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