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Greetings!

A week ago I went to fuel my car. The man on the fuel station began to
put in gasoline, when I realized, he already had put 6-7 liters. I
asked him to drain the fuel tank and he did it. At this point I put
aprox. 35 l of diesel.
After 3 days and aprox. 100km the engine began to have strange rumors.
I went to a Honda dealer, i told them the hole story, and after a
couple of days they told me an injector needs to be replaced.
The car is new, I made only 3500 km.
My problem is that Honda wants to make me pay for this, as they say it
was an induced damage. I estimate that less than 0.5% of gasoline
might have remained in the tank. Is it possible that a percentage that
low affect the engine?
Regards,
Mihai Ungureanu

In article <47d5172c.0404020637.317f71a2@posting.google.com >,
mihai182000@yahoo.com (Mihai) wrote:

>Greetings!
>
>A week ago I went to fuel my car. The man on the fuel station began to
>put in gasoline, when I realized, he already had put 6-7 liters. I
>asked him to drain the fuel tank and he did it. At this point I put
>aprox. 35 l of diesel.
>After 3 days and aprox. 100km the engine began to have strange rumors.
>I went to a Honda dealer, i told them the hole story, and after a
>couple of days they told me an injector needs to be replaced.
>The car is new, I made only 3500 km.
>My problem is that Honda wants to make me pay for this, as they say it
>was an induced damage. I estimate that less than 0.5% of gasoline
>might have remained in the tank. Is it possible that a percentage that
>low affect the engine?
>Regards,
>Mihai Ungureanu

I seriously doubt it, but I'd let the dealer and fueling station deal with it!

It seems strange that the injectors would get fowled up by a little bit of
gasoline. I bet if it was a VW Diesel engine, the engine would have been
fine.

Pars

Mihai wrote:

> Greetings!
>
> A week ago I went to fuel my car. The man on the fuel station began to
> put in gasoline, when I realized, he already had put 6-7 liters. I
> asked him to drain the fuel tank and he did it. At this point I put
> aprox. 35 l of diesel.
> After 3 days and aprox. 100km the engine began to have strange rumors.
> I went to a Honda dealer, i told them the hole story, and after a
> couple of days they told me an injector needs to be replaced.
> The car is new, I made only 3500 km.
> My problem is that Honda wants to make me pay for this, as they say it
> was an induced damage. I estimate that less than 0.5% of gasoline
> might have remained in the tank. Is it possible that a percentage that
> low affect the engine?
> Regards,
> Mihai Ungureanu

I think that is not posible. Once I put 15l of gas and another 30 in my opel
td and I did not have any problems. What migh happened to you is that the
control unit had ratio of gas-oxigen and exhaust gases that does not have in
the program so it started to act strange. You should probably reset the unit
and and than see what is happening.

--
Ivan Tomaskovic

"Pars" <"sdaro(remove)"@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:406EAE96.D07A45A3@hotmail.com...
> It seems strange that the injectors would get fowled up by a little bit of
> gasoline. I bet if it was a VW Diesel engine, the engine would have been
> fine.
>
> Pars
>
> Mihai wrote:
>
> > Greetings!
> >
> > A week ago I went to fuel my car. The man on the fuel station began to
> > put in gasoline, when I realized, he already had put 6-7 liters. I
> > asked him to drain the fuel tank and he did it. At this point I put
> > aprox. 35 l of diesel.
> > After 3 days and aprox. 100km the engine began to have strange rumors.
> > I went to a Honda dealer, i told them the hole story, and after a
> > couple of days they told me an injector needs to be replaced.
> > The car is new, I made only 3500 km.
> > My problem is that Honda wants to make me pay for this, as they say it
> > was an induced damage. I estimate that less than 0.5% of gasoline
> > might have remained in the tank. Is it possible that a percentage that
> > low affect the engine?
> > Regards,
> > Mihai Ungureanu
>

On 2 Apr 2004 06:37:12 -0800, mihai182000@yahoo.com (Mihai) wrote:

>Greetings!
>
>A week ago I went to fuel my car. The man on the fuel station began to
>put in gasoline, when I realized, he already had put 6-7 liters. I
>asked him to drain the fuel tank and he did it. At this point I put
>aprox. 35 l of diesel.

Drain the tank - how? Does the diesel have a drain cock on the fuel tank?

>After 3 days and aprox. 100km the engine began to have strange rumors.
>I went to a Honda dealer, i told them the hole story, and after a
>couple of days they told me an injector needs to be replaced.
>The car is new, I made only 3500 km.
>My problem is that Honda wants to make me pay for this, as they say it
>was an induced damage. I estimate that less than 0.5% of gasoline
>might have remained in the tank. Is it possible that a percentage that
>low affect the engine?

What kind of "induced damage" do they claim? I don't see how a very low
concentration of gasoline in diesel fuel can damage an injector. Tell them
you think that the injector is just faulty and you want evidence of this
"damage." Sounds like maybe you gave them too much info.:-(

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

Thank you all for the answers!

Honda claims that they can provide legal documentation for an eventual
trial, so they think they can prove the "induced damage".
However the boss of the gas station visited them personally and seems
available to take responsability.
IMHO there is a chance of a faultry injector and the Honda dealer
wants to make some easy money. In that case I will get really angry.

Anyway, last week I have found on internet a case when a Golf TDi had
to change ALL injectors damaged by gasoline.
Here is the link (italian)
http://groups.google.it/groups?hl=it...news.inwind.it