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Old 01 Apr 2004, 08:46 pm
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Default Considering a Civic Hybrid...need help/advice

My wife has been considering a hybrid vehicle b/c she has a 80 mile RT
commmute every day....she stopped by a dealership ( not sure if it was honda
or toyota) and was told there was a 1 year waiting list!!!! She was also
told that this was the way it is for ALL hybrid vehicals. We live in
Houston, TX.....is this true everywhere in the country? Also what are the
best dealships in the country price-wise to get a hybrid vehical?

Thanks in advance

Alok


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Old 01 Apr 2004, 08:58 pm
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Buhda <tarasdream@hotmail.com> wrote:
> My wife has been considering a hybrid vehicle b/c she has a 80 mile RT
> commmute every day....she stopped by a dealership ( not sure if it was honda
> or toyota) and was told there was a 1 year waiting list!!!! She was also
> told that this was the way it is for ALL hybrid vehicals. We live in
> Houston, TX.....is this true everywhere in the country? Also what are the
> best dealships in the country price-wise to get a hybrid vehical?


A co-worker says there is a four week waiting list for the new Toyota Prius.
http://www.hondaofstevenscreek.com/ where I bought my Civic Hybrid, shows
three manual and eleven CVT in stock. I would recommend the CVT.

The 2004 Prius is rated for better mileage than the Civic. The fact that
it is a new model may be why there is a bit of a wait, but one year doesn't
make sense.

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Old 02 Apr 2004, 01:49 am
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Default Re: Considering a Civic Hybrid...need help/advice

In article <c4ihc9$ba3$1@blue.rahul.net>,
<dold@Considerin.usenet.us.com> wrote:
>The 2004 Prius is rated for better mileage than the Civic. The fact that
>it is a new model may be why there is a bit of a wait, but one year doesn't
>make sense.


Probably because it is a midsize hatchback, with a price roughly
comparable to that of other midsize cars. Other high fuel economy
cars (Honda hybrids and VW TDIs) are smaller inside.

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Old 02 Apr 2004, 10:00 am
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Timothy J. Lee <remove22@sonic.net> wrote:
> In article <c4ihc9$ba3$1@blue.rahul.net>,
> <dold@Considerin.usenet.us.com> wrote:
>>The 2004 Prius is rated for better mileage than the Civic. The fact that
>>it is a new model may be why there is a bit of a wait, but one year doesn't
>>make sense.


> Probably because it is a midsize hatchback, with a price roughly
> comparable to that of other midsize cars. Other high fuel economy
> cars (Honda hybrids and VW TDIs) are smaller inside.


Although I didn't even consider the Prius before I bought my Civic, I would
take a look at the new one. I am quite happy with my car, but the Prius,
as you note, is larger, gets better mileage, and has better performance.

The "one year" part of the wait doesn't make sense, and is certainly an
exageration. I waited about two weeks for my Civic, and there are now
plenty in stock around here, so that part of the original sales quote is
certainly incorrect.

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Old 02 Apr 2004, 11:33 am
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On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 01:46:32 GMT, "Buhda" <tarasdream@hotmail.com> wrote:

||My wife has been considering a hybrid vehicle b/c she has a 80 mile RT
||commmute every day....she stopped by a dealership ( not sure if it was honda
||or toyota) and was told there was a 1 year waiting list!!!! She was also
||told that this was the way it is for ALL hybrid vehicals. We live in
||Houston, TX.....is this true everywhere in the country? Also what are the
||best dealships in the country price-wise to get a hybrid vehical?

Get the Prius instead. Less funky looks, bigger and gets better fuel economy.
Rex in Fort Worth
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Old 02 Apr 2004, 11:39 am
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Rex B <NOSPAMrex@removetxol.net> wrote:
> Get the Prius instead. Less funky looks, bigger and gets better fuel
> economy. Rex in Fort Worth


The OP wasn't sure whether the dealer was Honda or Toyota. I assumed it
was Toyota, since there should be no shortage of the Honda Civic.

Get the Prius because it has less funky looks?
Less than a Honda Civic? That would be an odd thing to say, even for the
current generation Prius, which is far less funky than the earlier Prius.

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Old 02 Apr 2004, 12:43 pm
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Rex B wrote:

<snip>
> Get the Prius instead. Less funky looks, bigger and gets better fuel economy.
> Rex in Fort Worth


Perhaps you are thinking of the Honda Insight, which is kind of funky
looking. The Honda Civic Hybrid looks like any other Civic sedan, and is
to my eyes much less odd looking than either first or second generation
Prius.
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Old 02 Apr 2004, 02:00 pm
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On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 16:33:35 GMT, Rex B <NOSPAMrex@REMOVEtxol.net> wrote:
>On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 01:46:32 GMT, "Buhda" <tarasdream@hotmail.com> wrote:


>||My wife has been considering a hybrid vehicle b/c she has a 80 mile RT
>||commmute every day....she stopped by a dealership ( not sure if it was honda
>||or toyota) and was told there was a 1 year waiting list!!!! She was also
>||told that this was the way it is for ALL hybrid vehicals. We live in
>||Houston, TX.....is this true everywhere in the country? Also what are the
>||best dealships in the country price-wise to get a hybrid vehical?


>Get the Prius instead. Less funky looks, bigger and gets better fuel economy.
>Rex in Fort Worth


Don't get either. Even at $2.50/gallon, it'll take over 100,000 miles for the
extra cost to be recouped. If you factor in interest on the car loan and
battery maintenance, the thing will *never* break even.
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Default Re: Considering a Civic Hybrid...need help/advice

Well we were looking at cars that run around the same price...$20k......and
since we already have a note we'd just be swapping ( and for less). We
avg ~20K+ miles a year on her car due to her commute so a hybrid would be
of some benefit. As I understand it (and I may be wrong) the the battery
and all "hybrid" components are warrantied for 10yr/100K miles.

Alok
"TCS" <The-Central-Scrutinizer@p.o.b.o.x.com> wrote in message
news:slrnc6re20.9u4.The-Central-Scrutinizer@linux.client.comcast.net...
> On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 16:33:35 GMT, Rex B <NOSPAMrex@REMOVEtxol.net> wrote:
> >On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 01:46:32 GMT, "Buhda" <tarasdream@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> >||My wife has been considering a hybrid vehicle b/c she has a 80 mile RT
> >||commmute every day....she stopped by a dealership ( not sure if it was

honda
> >||or toyota) and was told there was a 1 year waiting list!!!! She was

also
> >||told that this was the way it is for ALL hybrid vehicals. We live in
> >||Houston, TX.....is this true everywhere in the country? Also what are

the
> >||best dealships in the country price-wise to get a hybrid vehical?

>
> >Get the Prius instead. Less funky looks, bigger and gets better fuel

economy.
> >Rex in Fort Worth

>
> Don't get either. Even at $2.50/gallon, it'll take over 100,000 miles for

the
> extra cost to be recouped. If you factor in interest on the car loan and
> battery maintenance, the thing will *never* break even.



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Old 02 Apr 2004, 10:09 pm
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Default Re: Considering a Civic Hybrid...need help/advice

My friend told me his Honda Civic has 7yrs warranty on battery and no
shortage in PA. He paid around $20K but he got $2K tax credit, he said this
year tax credit is $1.5K so the price is about the same if you factor in the
tax credit. He is very happy so far. I sit in his car, I don't notice any
different.

Hai
"Buhda" <tarasdream@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Well we were looking at cars that run around the same

price...$20k......and
> since we already have a note we'd just be swapping ( and for less). We
> avg ~20K+ miles a year on her car due to her commute so a hybrid would be
> of some benefit. As I understand it (and I may be wrong) the the battery
> and all "hybrid" components are warrantied for 10yr/100K miles.
>
> Alok
> "TCS" <The-Central-Scrutinizer@p.o.b.o.x.com> wrote in message
> news:slrnc6re20.9u4.The-Central-Scrutinizer@linux.client.comcast.net...
> > On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 16:33:35 GMT, Rex B <NOSPAMrex@REMOVEtxol.net>

wrote:
> > >On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 01:46:32 GMT, "Buhda" <tarasdream@hotmail.com>

wrote:
> >
> > >||My wife has been considering a hybrid vehicle b/c she has a 80 mile

RT
> > >||commmute every day....she stopped by a dealership ( not sure if it

was
> honda
> > >||or toyota) and was told there was a 1 year waiting list!!!! She was

> also
> > >||told that this was the way it is for ALL hybrid vehicals. We live in
> > >||Houston, TX.....is this true everywhere in the country? Also what

are
> the
> > >||best dealships in the country price-wise to get a hybrid vehical?

> >
> > >Get the Prius instead. Less funky looks, bigger and gets better fuel

> economy.
> > >Rex in Fort Worth

> >
> > Don't get either. Even at $2.50/gallon, it'll take over 100,000 miles

for
> the
> > extra cost to be recouped. If you factor in interest on the car loan

and
> > battery maintenance, the thing will *never* break even.

>
>



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