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Hi!
I just bought a 1990 Honda Concerto 1.6 L EX, with an automatic gearbox.
Could anybody tell me whether the engine is originally a Rover engine or a
Honda?
Any comment about this car?
Thanks!

Basically it's a 4th generation Civic with 5 doors for european market. It
IS a Honda Civic. 1.5l 90hp, 1.6 110hp and 1.6l 130hp variants I think.

Great! Thanks, I was afraid that, due to a joint-venture with Rover, they
had put a Rover engine in a Honda body.
So I will take advantage of the robustness of Honda.

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Antoine de Champeaux
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ch@mpeaux.net


"amateur" <yeah@right.com> a écrit dans le message de
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> Basically it's a 4th generation Civic with 5 doors for european market. It
> IS a Honda Civic. 1.5l 90hp, 1.6 110hp and 1.6l 130hp variants I think.
>
>

The Concerto autos use a Honda engine but the Manuals use a Rover K series
engine - which is prone to head gasket failure regularly.

"Antoine de Champeaux" <champeaux@9online.fr> wrote in message
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> Great! Thanks, I was afraid that, due to a joint-venture with Rover, they
> had put a Rover engine in a Honda body.
> So I will take advantage of the robustness of Honda.
>
> --
>
> Antoine de Champeaux
> +33 (0)6 60 48 55 75
> ch@mpeaux.net
>
>
> "amateur" <yeah@right.com> a écrit dans le message de
> news:c0idco$tni$1@news.siemens.at...
> > Basically it's a 4th generation Civic with 5 doors for european market.
It
> > IS a Honda Civic. 1.5l 90hp, 1.6 110hp and 1.6l 130hp variants I think.
> >
> >
>
>

"john" <@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
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> The Concerto autos use a Honda engine but the Manuals use a Rover K series
> engine - which is prone to head gasket failure regularly.
>

Do you have any links to back this up?

I thought the only Rover engine in a Honda body would be a 2.0 litre 105hp
turbo diesel in Accord TDi. New Accords don't have this engine anymore, but
rather use Honda's own diesel unit.

"amateur" <yeah@right.com> wrote in message
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>
> "john" <@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
> news:402df177$0$10339$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com...
> > The Concerto autos use a Honda engine but the Manuals use a Rover K
series
> > engine - which is prone to head gasket failure regularly.
> >
>
> Do you have any links to back this up?
>
> I thought the only Rover engine in a Honda body would be a 2.0 litre 105hp
> turbo diesel in Accord TDi. New Accords don't have this engine anymore,
but
> rather use Honda's own diesel unit.
>
You're quite right! My brain has gone it was the Rover version of the
Concerto - the 216 that had the Rover Engine with a Honda engine only in the
auto. I should know better than this, been driving numerous Hondas for 15
years.

Apologies.

Hey, look at what I found in old discussion groups (having searched for
"honda concerto rover engine" in Google groups):

http://groups.google.fr/groups?q=hon...hp.com&rnum=12

http://groups.google.fr/groups?q=hon...n.co.uk&rnum=3

http://groups.google.fr/groups?q=hon...l.co.uk&rnum=5

http://groups.google.fr/groups?q=hon....edu.sg&rnum=7

and also

http://www.xs4all.nl/~mjs/storycivic.html

so actually my Honda is a Honda with a Honda engine; only the equivalent
Rover had a choice between Rover and Honda engines

Antoine

"amateur" <yeah@right.com> a écrit dans le message de
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>
> "john" <@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
> news:402df177$0$10339$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com...
> > The Concerto autos use a Honda engine but the Manuals use a Rover K
series
> > engine - which is prone to head gasket failure regularly.
> >
>
> Do you have any links to back this up?
>
> I thought the only Rover engine in a Honda body would be a 2.0 litre 105hp
> turbo diesel in Accord TDi. New Accords don't have this engine anymore,
but
> rather use Honda's own diesel unit.
>
>

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 13:39:56 +0100, "amateur" <yeah@right.com> wrote:

>New Accords don't have this engine anymore, but
>rather use Honda's own diesel unit.

Is this true? Has Honda's diesel finally made it to production? I thought
the current diesel Accords used the Isuzu unit produced in Poland.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

The 1.4 is a Rover K sreies, and a right dog at that. 1.6 is Honda and
bulletproof if the oil is reglarly changed. My last 1.6 had done over 180,000
miles when sold, and still did not need oil topping up in between routine
changes.

Bob

> Is this true? Has Honda's diesel finally made it to production? I
thought
> the current diesel Accords used the Isuzu unit produced in Poland.
>
> Rgds, George Macdonald

George, it's true. Accord 2.2 CDTi with Honda's own common rail turbo diesel
produces 140hp at 4000 rpm and 340Nm at 2000 rpm. I've read some good
reviews. 9.3 secs 0-100 km/h. 210hm/h top speed. Low fuel consumption even
for a diesel. Easy to find with Google.

The current Civic 1.7 CDTi still uses a non-Honda (Isuzu) unit, producing
101hp.

All of this is of course only for european market.