Honda Car Forum

"Sal Astuto" <bigsalny@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:H%EVb.49696$WY4.12701249@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv. net...
> As a Mechanic at a Lexus delership I will tell you this. Germans do NOT
> design their car with any semblance of making sense. They SUCK ASS to
work
> on!!
Try replacing a water pump on a Honda and do the same on a VW and then let
us know which one is easier.

elmop@nastydesigns.com (Elmo*P.*Shagnasty) wrote:

>The VW is your mistress. The Honda is
>the wife you come home to, head
>bowed, asking for forgiveness.

LOL. That was the exact analogy I was thinking of as I read your
description of your time with the VW.

"Thomas Cooke" <tomboy83@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<I8cVb.18035$uM2.2374@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net>...
> I know this is the wrong news group to talk about VW's, but I have already
> had a 99' accord and a 02 Civic EX. I am considering the new VW GTi, I like
> the safety features and standard as well as optional extras, and when you
> can get one nearly loaded for 21,500. that's not bad. I was wondering since
> the price is close to an Accord LX, what is the reliability/drivability like
> if anyone has had a GTi???
>
> Thanks,

Reliability: Honda great. VW seriouly sucks. Truly.

JM

In article <zVMVb.4744$fV5.143280@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
"K5" <K56522@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > As a Mechanic at a Lexus delership I will tell you this. Germans do NOT
> > design their car with any semblance of making sense. They SUCK ASS to
> work
> > on!!
> Try replacing a water pump on a Honda and do the same on a VW and then let
> us know which one is easier.

Which Honda? Which VW?

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-5CA1F1.17242509022004@news.usenetserver.com...
> In article <zVMVb.4744$fV5.143280@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
> "K5" <K56522@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Try replacing a water pump on a Honda and do the same on a VW and then
let
> > us know which one is easier.
>
> Which Honda? Which VW?
Accord. Golf/Jetta. The Golf is easier.

In article <sWTVb.205$hR.4718@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
"K5" <K56522@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > Which Honda? Which VW?
> Accord. Golf/Jetta. The Golf is easier.

I can pick data points, you can pick data points. What does the big
picture say?

The Germans have one philosophy on building cars, Honda has another.
Honda's overall philosophy is better.

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-E2445B.20590509022004@news.usenetserver.com...
> In article <sWTVb.205$hR.4718@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
> "K5" <K56522@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I can pick data points, you can pick data points. What does the big
> picture say?
>
> The Germans have one philosophy on building cars, Honda has another.
> Honda's overall philosophy is better.
I know it's hard, but try to keep up. An asinine generalization was made -
Japanese cars are easier to work on than German. This is not true
especially when you compare a Honda to a VW. If you can read and comprehend
my comments in this thread you will note that I think the Honda is an
excellent car. But it is not easier to work on than a VW; the VW is easier.
This is based on my direct experience. YMMV. Initially you made some very
good points which I agreed with, but go ahead and dilute what I said with
another stupid shyt generalization like "Honda's overall philosophy is
better" (whatever that is supposed to mean) if you are compelled to do so.

Well thanks for all the responses. I think I am probably going to consider a
Honda Accord now. I had 2 Hondas anyway, just wanted something a little more
racy after sitting in a GTi at the North East Auto Show. I wasn't aware that
VW's had so many mechanical problems nor repair costs and breakages. I know
that my accord was very reliabil as is my civic.



>
> Reliability: Honda great. VW seriouly sucks. Truly.
>
> JM

There is one VW Golf and one Honda Civic in the family. Both over 10
years old and both with more than 100k miles on the odometer. That VW is
very easy to work on. The Civic I simply don't know. It never required
any work beyond changing oil and brake pads.


K5 wrote:
>
> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
> news:elmop-E2445B.20590509022004@news.usenetserver.com...
> > In article <sWTVb.205$hR.4718@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
> > "K5" <K56522@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I can pick data points, you can pick data points. What does the big
> > picture say?
> >
> > The Germans have one philosophy on building cars, Honda has another.
> > Honda's overall philosophy is better.
> I know it's hard, but try to keep up. An asinine generalization was made -
> Japanese cars are easier to work on than German. This is not true
> especially when you compare a Honda to a VW. If you can read and comprehend
> my comments in this thread you will note that I think the Honda is an
> excellent car. But it is not easier to work on than a VW; the VW is easier.
> This is based on my direct experience. YMMV. Initially you made some very
> good points which I agreed with, but go ahead and dilute what I said with
> another stupid shyt generalization like "Honda's overall philosophy is
> better" (whatever that is supposed to mean) if you are compelled to do so.

In article <40286B4C.712E9B53@junkmail.com>,
Randolph <trash@junkmail.com> wrote:

> There is one VW Golf and one Honda Civic in the family. Both over 10
> years old and both with more than 100k miles on the odometer. That VW is
> very easy to work on. The Civic I simply don't know. It never required
> any work beyond changing oil and brake pads.

And there you have it.