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I have just bought Honda accord v6 LX and wondering that does it comes
with the bulitin outside temperature gauge? as the dealer says it's
only with EX models so can any one help me on that do i need to buy
that seperatly or can I programm that and if yes then HOW ?? thanks

"Ghori" <fuzail1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ea174f.0401271132.10c002e1@posting.google.com ...
> I have just bought Honda accord v6 LX and wondering that does it comes
> with the bulitin outside temperature gauge? as the dealer says it's
> only with EX models so can any one help me on that do i need to buy
> that seperatly or can I programm that and if yes then HOW ?? thanks

You could buy a digital thermometer with a remote sensor (on a cable that
you run outside the cabin). Most auto stores or even large department
stores carry them for around $10.

Pete

"Ghori" <fuzail1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ea174f.0401271132.10c002e1@posting.google.com ...
> I have just bought Honda accord v6 LX and wondering that does it comes
> with the bulitin outside temperature gauge? as the dealer says it's
> only with EX models so can any one help me on that do i need to buy
> that seperatly or can I programm that and if yes then HOW ?? thanks


I have the EX with the gauge and I would not spend money for that silly
gauge. Honda's smoothing algorithm results in silly long time for the gauge
to adjust to changed conditions. Sometimes 20 minutes or more of at speed
driving is required before you get an accurate number.

Almost useless. If you really want one, buy and install one of the many
aftermarket jobs.

John

John Horner said...
>
> "Ghori" <fuzail1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ea174f.0401271132.10c002e1@posting.google.com ...
> > I have just bought Honda accord v6 LX and wondering that does it comes
> > with the bulitin outside temperature gauge? as the dealer says it's
> > only with EX models so can any one help me on that do i need to buy
> > that seperatly or can I programm that and if yes then HOW ?? thanks
>
> I have the EX with the gauge and I would not spend money for that silly
> gauge. Honda's smoothing algorithm results in silly long time for the gauge
> to adjust to changed conditions. Sometimes 20 minutes or more of at speed
> driving is required before you get an accurate number.

I never really get an accurate one. It reads consistently high but
it does give some relative idea of what the temperature is.

> Almost useless. If you really want one, buy and install one of the many
> aftermarket jobs.

He's not missing a lot. I wouldn't pay $10 for my "built-in"
digital readout. I love my 2003 EX V6 Coupe, but the temp guage is
not something to lust over.


Casey

I agree on the value of the built-in temperature gauge. The one in my
Passat works very well. I get a good read very quickly as I start to
drive. The Honda takes forever as they have over compensated to avoid
erratic fluctuations. The temp outside this morning was -15 degrees
and my garage thermometer said about 5 degrees. The car temp gauge
said 2 as I pulled away. 10-15 minutes later driving through town, the
gauge had only gotten down to about -8. It took half the drive to
start to move at all. In my view, there are two reasons to have a
temperature gauge. One is you are cruising on a long trip and the
gauge helps alert you to the fact that it is approaching freezing on
the road. The other is you hop in the car and wonder how cold or hot
it really is. This gauge works for the former, but not the latter.

Cheers

Tom


On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 23:36:34 -0600, Casey <cclremovethispart@cox.net>
wrote:

>John Horner said...
>>
>> "Ghori" <fuzail1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:ea174f.0401271132.10c002e1@posting.google.com ...
>> > I have just bought Honda accord v6 LX and wondering that does it comes
>> > with the bulitin outside temperature gauge? as the dealer says it's
>> > only with EX models so can any one help me on that do i need to buy
>> > that seperatly or can I programm that and if yes then HOW ?? thanks
>>
>> I have the EX with the gauge and I would not spend money for that silly
>> gauge. Honda's smoothing algorithm results in silly long time for the gauge
>> to adjust to changed conditions. Sometimes 20 minutes or more of at speed
>> driving is required before you get an accurate number.
>
>I never really get an accurate one. It reads consistently high but
>it does give some relative idea of what the temperature is.
>
>> Almost useless. If you really want one, buy and install one of the many
>> aftermarket jobs.
>
>He's not missing a lot. I wouldn't pay $10 for my "built-in"
>digital readout. I love my 2003 EX V6 Coupe, but the temp guage is
>not something to lust over.
>
>
>Casey

"TL" <tlehman@visi.com> wrote in message
news:cpri10t57umffeai298imcplibpjghkl1i@4ax.com...
> I agree on the value of the built-in temperature gauge. The one in my
> Passat works very well. I get a good read very quickly as I start to
> drive. The Honda takes forever as they have over compensated to avoid
> erratic fluctuations. The temp outside this morning was -15 degrees
> and my garage thermometer said about 5 degrees. The car temp gauge
> said 2 as I pulled away. 10-15 minutes later driving through town, the
> gauge had only gotten down to about -8. It took half the drive to
> start to move at all. In my view, there are two reasons to have a
> temperature gauge. One is you are cruising on a long trip and the
> gauge helps alert you to the fact that it is approaching freezing on
> the road. The other is you hop in the car and wonder how cold or hot
> it really is. This gauge works for the former, but not the latter.

I'm surprised by all these comments because the gauge in my 2002 CR-V seems
to be working just fine.
I adjusted the offset when I first got the car (somebody provided the
sequence) and it worked fine ever since.

How do you adjust the offset? I've just gotten used to it reading
about 4 degrees too high. I didn't realize I could adjust that.

Still doesn't solve the problem of how long it takes to register. You
don't have that problem?



On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 16:00:48 -0500, "Paul Bielec" <me@no.spam> wrote:

>"TL" <tlehman@visi.com> wrote in message
>news:cpri10t57umffeai298imcplibpjghkl1i@4ax.com.. .
>> I agree on the value of the built-in temperature gauge. The one in my
>> Passat works very well. I get a good read very quickly as I start to
>> drive. The Honda takes forever as they have over compensated to avoid
>> erratic fluctuations. The temp outside this morning was -15 degrees
>> and my garage thermometer said about 5 degrees. The car temp gauge
>> said 2 as I pulled away. 10-15 minutes later driving through town, the
>> gauge had only gotten down to about -8. It took half the drive to
>> start to move at all. In my view, there are two reasons to have a
>> temperature gauge. One is you are cruising on a long trip and the
>> gauge helps alert you to the fact that it is approaching freezing on
>> the road. The other is you hop in the car and wonder how cold or hot
>> it really is. This gauge works for the former, but not the latter.
>
>I'm surprised by all these comments because the gauge in my 2002 CR-V seems
>to be working just fine.
>I adjusted the offset when I first got the car (somebody provided the
>sequence) and it worked fine ever since.
>

Here's the silly: Feb. '03 Service News

Indicator Logic: ’03 Accord

On ’03 Accord EXs with leather and ’03 Accord EX V6s, the outside temperature
indicator keeps bogus readings to a minimum by delaying the
refreshing of the display until you’re driving the vehicle faster than 19 mph,
and by limiting the display change rate. Here’s how the logic works:
When you turn the ignition switch to ON (II):
• If the engine coolant temperature is less than 60°C (140°F), the display shows
the current outside air temperature.
• If the engine coolant temperature is greater than 60°C (140°F), the display
shows the temperature that was stored in memory when
you turned the switch to LOCK (0). The display doesn’t refresh from this
reading until you drive the vehicle faster than 19 mph for at
least 90 seconds. Once this criteria is met:
• If the measured outside air temperature is greater than the displayed
temperature, the displayed temperature rises 1°C per minute
(about 1.8°F) until the two temperatures match.
• If the measured outside air temperature is less than the displayed
temperature, the displayed temperature drops to match the measured
outside air temperature after about 20 seconds.

If you need to calibrate the outside temperature indicator, refer to page
22-240 of the 2003 Accord S/M.


John Horner wrote:

> "Ghori" <fuzail1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ea174f.0401271132.10c002e1@posting.google.com ...
> > I have just bought Honda accord v6 LX and wondering that does it comes
> > with the bulitin outside temperature gauge? as the dealer says it's
> > only with EX models so can any one help me on that do i need to buy
> > that seperatly or can I programm that and if yes then HOW ?? thanks
>
> I have the EX with the gauge and I would not spend money for that silly
> gauge. Honda's smoothing algorithm results in silly long time for the gauge
> to adjust to changed conditions. Sometimes 20 minutes or more of at speed
> driving is required before you get an accurate number.
>
> Almost useless. If you really want one, buy and install one of the many
> aftermarket jobs.
>
> John

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"TomP" <roadcyc@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
news:401BDB71.539F1999@socal.rr.com...
> Here's the silly: Feb. '03 Service News
>
> Indicator Logic: '03 Accord
>
> On '03 Accord EXs with leather and '03 Accord EX V6s, the outside
temperature
> indicator keeps bogus readings to a minimum by delaying the
> refreshing of the display until you're driving the vehicle faster than 19
mph,
> and by limiting the display change rate. Here's how the logic works:

Nice theory, but in practice the Honda outside temp. gauge is much less
usable than is the similar feature on our Oldsmobile minivan. Honda spent
too much time theorizing about the issues and not enough time in real life
use testing.

John

Agreed; Honda over thought the operation of this meter.


John Horner wrote:

> "TomP" <roadcyc@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:401BDB71.539F1999@socal.rr.com...
> > Here's the silly: Feb. '03 Service News
> >
> > Indicator Logic: '03 Accord
> >
> > On '03 Accord EXs with leather and '03 Accord EX V6s, the outside
> temperature
> > indicator keeps bogus readings to a minimum by delaying the
> > refreshing of the display until you're driving the vehicle faster than 19
> mph,
> > and by limiting the display change rate. Here's how the logic works:
>
> Nice theory, but in practice the Honda outside temp. gauge is much less
> usable than is the similar feature on our Oldsmobile minivan. Honda spent
> too much time theorizing about the issues and not enough time in real life
> use testing.
>
> John

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