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It's about time. I wonder how much it will start at?$$$

> It's about time. I wonder how much it will start at?$$$


if this sort of thing keeps up pretty soon the only difference between
automakers will be the badge on the front, Honda makes inexpensive fuel
efficient cars. Chevy makes pick-ups. i see this new honda pick-up as
just a novelty (like the F*rd explorer pick-up) and when people realize
that they can not use to do anything it will lose support. it is just a
pilot without any trunk space. just my 2 cents, feel free to disagree

smit_andrew@hotmail.com (Andrew*Smit) wrote:

>i see this new honda pick-up as just a
>novelty (like the F*rd explorer pick-up)

That's kewl, the way you handle Ford. Dirty little word.

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 00:09:55 GMT, Andrew Smit
<smit_andrew@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>> It's about time. I wonder how much it will start at?$$$
>
>
>if this sort of thing keeps up pretty soon the only difference between
>automakers will be the badge on the front,

I don't know if I would go that far but...

> Honda makes inexpensive fuel
>efficient cars. Chevy makes pick-ups. i see this new honda pick-up as
>just a novelty (like the F*rd explorer pick-up) and when people realize
>that they can not use to do anything it will lose support. it is just a
>pilot without any trunk space. just my 2 cents, feel free to disagree

I agree that these half/mini-pickups are pretty stupid and I don't
think any of them sell that well.

from what I understand the new SUT will be on an all new light truck
platform versus the minivan platform that the Pilot is made on.

"Gordon McGrew" <gRmEcMgOrVeEw@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:rmdsvvknp3cbebuif8sodqpjsugp19b5g0@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 00:09:55 GMT, Andrew Smit
> <smit_andrew@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >> It's about time. I wonder how much it will start at?$$$
> >
> >
> >if this sort of thing keeps up pretty soon the only difference between
> >automakers will be the badge on the front,
>
> I don't know if I would go that far but...
>
> > Honda makes inexpensive fuel
> >efficient cars. Chevy makes pick-ups. i see this new honda pick-up as
> >just a novelty (like the F*rd explorer pick-up) and when people realize
> >that they can not use to do anything it will lose support. it is just a
> >pilot without any trunk space. just my 2 cents, feel free to disagree
>
> I agree that these half/mini-pickups are pretty stupid and I don't
> think any of them sell that well.
>
>
>
>
>

That is pretty much what Subaru is discovering with its
car based 'truck.'


mike hunt


Gordon McGrew wrote:
>
> On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 00:09:55 GMT, Andrew Smit
> <smit_andrew@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >> It's about time. I wonder how much it will start at?$$$
> >
> >
> >if this sort of thing keeps up pretty soon the only difference between
> >automakers will be the badge on the front,
>
> I don't know if I would go that far but...
>
> > Honda makes inexpensive fuel
> >efficient cars. Chevy makes pick-ups. i see this new honda pick-up as
> >just a novelty (like the F*rd explorer pick-up) and when people realize
> >that they can not use to do anything it will lose support. it is just a
> >pilot without any trunk space. just my 2 cents, feel free to disagree
>
> I agree that these half/mini-pickups are pretty stupid and I don't
> think any of them sell that well.

Well well well...if it isn't our resident liar.

Laying low for a while Mikey?

I noticed you changed your name...would there be a reason for this?

--
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<MikrHunt@lycos.com> wrote in message news:3FFF040F.C47A3988@lycos.com...
> That is pretty much what Subaru is discovering with its
> car based 'truck.'
>
>
> mike hunt
>
>
> Gordon McGrew wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 00:09:55 GMT, Andrew Smit
> > <smit_andrew@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >> It's about time. I wonder how much it will start at?$$$
> > >
> > >
> > >if this sort of thing keeps up pretty soon the only difference between
> > >automakers will be the badge on the front,
> >
> > I don't know if I would go that far but...
> >
> > > Honda makes inexpensive fuel
> > >efficient cars. Chevy makes pick-ups. i see this new honda pick-up as
> > >just a novelty (like the F*rd explorer pick-up) and when people realize
> > >that they can not use to do anything it will lose support. it is just a
> > >pilot without any trunk space. just my 2 cents, feel free to disagree
> >
> > I agree that these half/mini-pickups are pretty stupid and I don't
> > think any of them sell that well.

the difference is the Subaru is ugly
<MikrHunt@lycos.com> wrote in message news:3FFF040F.C47A3988@lycos.com...
> That is pretty much what Subaru is discovering with its
> car based 'truck.'
>
>
> mike hunt
>
>
> Gordon McGrew wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 00:09:55 GMT, Andrew Smit
> > <smit_andrew@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >> It's about time. I wonder how much it will start at?$$$
> > >
> > >
> > >if this sort of thing keeps up pretty soon the only difference between
> > >automakers will be the badge on the front,
> >
> > I don't know if I would go that far but...
> >
> > > Honda makes inexpensive fuel
> > >efficient cars. Chevy makes pick-ups. i see this new honda pick-up as
> > >just a novelty (like the F*rd explorer pick-up) and when people realize
> > >that they can not use to do anything it will lose support. it is just a
> > >pilot without any trunk space. just my 2 cents, feel free to disagree
> >
> > I agree that these half/mini-pickups are pretty stupid and I don't
> > think any of them sell that well.

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 05:15:23 GMT, gRmEcMgOrVeEw@mindspring.com (Gordon
McGrew) wrote:

>On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 00:09:55 GMT, Andrew Smit
><smit_andrew@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>> It's about time. I wonder how much it will start at?$$$
>>
>>
>>if this sort of thing keeps up pretty soon the only difference between
>>automakers will be the badge on the front,
>
>I don't know if I would go that far but...

It happened in the U.K.... until the whole thing collapsed.

>> Honda makes inexpensive fuel
>>efficient cars. Chevy makes pick-ups. i see this new honda pick-up as
>>just a novelty (like the F*rd explorer pick-up) and when people realize
>>that they can not use to do anything it will lose support. it is just a
>>pilot without any trunk space. just my 2 cents, feel free to disagree
>
>I agree that these half/mini-pickups are pretty stupid and I don't
>think any of them sell that well.

Stick on a penis enhancing bulbous nose, high headlamps which blind the
rest of the world and give you a peeping Tom's view into the back of every
other vehicle, call the engine a Hemi-something or a BIG block and <sigh>
it'll sell. I've been wondering if there might be a market for a
ball-turret accessory for Hummers. Whaddya think?

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

Initially I thought the idea of Honda building a truck that wasn't
a body on frame design was a horrible mistake. Now I think otherwise:
Here's why. Years ago, truck buyers bought trucks as tools to do work.
The size of the bed was more important then the passenger compartment.
While those buyers still exist, there exist a new group of truck buyers
who wants a vehicle roomy enough for 4-5 people yet offer some truck
practicality with a modest truck bed. The truck needs to look and feel
like a truck meaning car based ones like the El Camino and Subaru cross
over truck are out. Honda has built a huge reputation on building high
quality cars however during the early 90's but they lost huge amounts of
market share as Honda owners needed larger vehicles that Honda at the
time didn't have. So they traded in their Accords and Civics for more
family friendly Caravans and Explorers. Then a few years ago, Nissan
decided to do something radical. They introduced a compact 4 door pickup.
All the big name manufacturers have been selling compact 4 door pickups
for years prior to that however they weren't being sold in the USA. But
the trend caught on and it caught on big. Now just about all light trucks
have a 4 door option in the US and they are selling. Now is a great time
for Honda to enter in the market.

Most people who buy SUVs and 4 door pickups don't do much towing nor do
they go off road. How often do you see a Lincoln Navigator towing anything?
But run over to your local mall and you will run out of fingers counting
them. Enter in car based SUVs and 4 door pickups which give up on
the stuff most people don't need and replace it with smoother ride, more
car like feel, better fuel economy and easier parking.

Directly attacking full sized trucks from GM, Ford and Dodge is a risky
adventure for any import make. Most die hard truck buyers don't care about
fuel economy, ride quality or in some cases long term reliability.
No die hard truck buyers are a unique group who are loyal to their brands.
Also a good percentage of full sized trucks are sold as fleet vehicles to
local and US government agencies. With the exception of a few entities out
there, just about all governemnt agencies will buy a domestic vehicle to
fill their fleet. With the death of the Chevy Caprice, police departments
are opting to buy full sized trucks or SUVs instead of buying an import car.

Andrew Smit wrote:
>
> > It's about time. I wonder how much it will start at?$$$
>
> if this sort of thing keeps up pretty soon the only difference between
> automakers will be the badge on the front, Honda makes inexpensive fuel
> efficient cars. Chevy makes pick-ups. i see this new honda pick-up as
> just a novelty (like the F*rd explorer pick-up) and when people realize
> that they can not use to do anything it will lose support. it is just a
> pilot without any trunk space. just my 2 cents, feel free to disagree