Honda Car Forum

The truth is a stock 2003 S2000 will not do the quarter
in 13.86, as he claims. Besides who quits a race in
1/4 mile in the real world?


mike hunt



robert Jones wrote:
>
> "NetSock" <NetSock@nospam.com> wrote in message news:<bsuvj3$ffo$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>...
> > "robert Jones" <bobbinder@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:2f324cf6.0312310845.6c27f732@posting.google.c om...
> > > "NetSock" <NetSock@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > news:<bsshmi$8ut$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>...
> > > >>
> > > > The engine in my S2000 makes the most horsepower per cubic inch, than
> > *ANY*
> > > > other normally aspirated stock production engine on the planet.
> > >
> > > So? You have the rev the crap out of it to get it.
> >
> > "So?" back at you...the fact remains...
>
> The only people who care about power per liter is you Honda people.
> While the Honda engineers should be proud it's just not that great an
> achievement.
>
> >
> > > >
> > > > Weighing in at 2800 lbs with 240 hp, this *FOUR CYLINDER* completes the
> > 1/4
> > > > mile in 13.8 seconds.
> > >
> > > For someone who has "a wealth of automotive knowledge" you would know
> > > that 13.8 1/4's are respectable but not fast.
> >
> > Can you read?
>
> Can you get it through your honda brainwashed head that 13.8 in any
> car is not fast 4 cylinder or not. Comeback and see me when that same
> 4 cylinder can run 11.99 or better. In the grand scheme of things 13.8
> just isn't fast anymore.
>
> >
> > 13.8 is fast for any four cylinder. Care to name another stock four cylinder
> > that can run in the 13s?
>
> Well when I look at the results of NOPI comp 4 I see Integras in the
> 12's with what I would consider to be stock engines.
>
> >
>
> Try taking off your Honda Blinders
>
> >
> > > Fast begins at 11.99 and
> > > lower.
> >
> > Not for a stock four cylinder.
>
> It can be done.
>
> > Its obvious it is *you* that has an apparent lapse in track knowledge.
> >
>
> Umm No not really. Just different opinon than you. Consistent 12:51's
> all day every Sunday
>
> > > >
> > > > Now are there faster cars? Sure there are, but if anybody doesn't think
> > that
> > > > this four cylinder car isn't "fast", well, they just have a screw
> > loose...
> > >
> > > Quick and nimble not fast. Guess I better get my screwdrivers out
> > > then. The S2000 is a nice car but like the NSX overhyped and over
> > > priced for what it is.
> >
> >
> > "Overhyped"? I don't know what your talking about here. Honda doesn't even
> > have a dedicated commercial for the S.
>
> They don't need one. All you Hondaites do it for them. I can't count
> the number of times I've heard someone say. "I would have beat you if
> I had an S2000"
>
> Honda should be commended for building the S2000 it's a nice car but
> it's just not that earth moving when comapred to other cars that are
> out there. Honda had the perfect opportunity to build a great roadster
> but like the NSX they chose the path less travelled and built just
> another high reving engine with a price tag to boot.
> >
> > Hmm...sounds like someone may be jealous to me.
>
> No jealousy here. Just feel Honda dropped the ball and could have
> built a better car.
>
> >
> > Take care.

Even if what you believe to be true was true, you are forgetting
one must first race UP that the mountain before you car race
down. LOL


mike hunt



net suke wrote:
>
> <BenDover@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:3FF45AAF.F6B94B51@mailcity.com...
> > You are correct, buyers buy the vehicle that best suits their
> > needs and budget. In the price range of the Camry, Accord and
> > Taurus they buy them in that order. Apparently more buyers
> > choose the Camry because they believe it has superior
> > reliability, dependability, and the best value for the superb
> > quality over the Accord or the Ford. The kids buying Mustangs
> > are buying the 21K V6 coupe, not the GT. The guys with 25/28K
> > buy the GT coupe/convertible. If they have 33K they buy the 305
> > HP Mach I or 390 HP Cobra. The Mustang GT must outsell the
> > S2000 by at least twenty to one. One can therefor only assume
> > buyers believe the Mustang has superior reliability,
> > dependability, and the best value for the superb quality over the
> > S2000.
>
> LOL! LOL! LOL!
>
> >After all that unrefined OHC SMEFI V8 GT will out perform
> > the S2000 in every aspect and it does so at 3000 RPM's not at
> > 6,000 RPM.
>
> Apples and oranges, you are comparing a V8 to a 4.
>
> And your wrong as well...the S2000 would tear up ANY mustang thru the
> twisties.
>
> > If I were spending 33K for a Honda that performed
> > adequately, I would buy the TL, at least it develops decent
> > torque without winding it to 7K to get on the curve.
>
> Again...apples and oranges.
>
> Only you would try to server your agenda, buy not comparing like
> automobiles. And only you are dumb enough to believe you would get away with
> it.
>
> Your an idiot.
>
> > In addition
> > the TL has room to take along a few friends when on wants.
>
> Two-seat sport cars have two seats for a reason you fool.
>
> Let send the TL and the S2000 down a twisty mountain road...Ill see ya at
> the bottom after I've already had a couple drinks.
>
> > Bye
> > the way, Happy New Year, and I
> > gotta go.
>
> For good we hope...
>
> --
> '03 S2000
> '94 Accord
>
> It's just about going fast...that's all...
>
> http://home.insight.rr.com/cgreen/

>"robert Jones" <bobbinder@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2f324cf6.0401020652.cec928c@posting.google.co m...
> The only people who care about power per liter is you Honda people.

What are you talking about? Its a well used term, and known measurement.

> While the Honda engineers should be proud it's just not that great an
> achievement.

Somebody has to hold the title...and Honda has it. I don't understand your
debating logic...you make little sense.

> Can you get it through your honda brainwashed head that 13.8 in any
> car is not fast 4 cylinder or not.

Well...I'm not brainwashed by Honda, and your straw arguments are resulting
in loss of credibility...on your part.

>Comeback and see me when that same
> 4 cylinder can run 11.99 or better.

No thank you.

> In the grand scheme of things 13.8
> just isn't fast anymore.

Yes it is...you are wrong.

> Well when I look at the results of NOPI comp 4 I see Integras in the
> 12's with what I would consider to be stock engines.

LOL! You cant "consider" an engine to be stock. It like being
pregnant...either you are, or you are not.

> Try taking off your Honda Blinders

I don't have any one, thank you.

> It can be done.

Another straw comment, that only shows you don't have any real ammo within
this debate.

> > Its obvious it is *you* that has an apparent lapse in track knowledge.
> >
>
> Umm No not really. Just different opinon than you. Consistent 12:51's
> all day every Sunday

Nothing about opinions...I stand by my original statement.

> > "Overhyped"? I don't know what your talking about here. Honda doesn't
even
> > have a dedicated commercial for the S.
>
> They don't need one. All you Hondaites do it for them. I can't count
> the number of times I've heard someone say. "I would have beat you if
> I had an S2000"

What does this have to do with the car being overhyped like you originally
stated!?

Again...you make no sense towards the issue at hand.

> Honda should be commended for building the S2000 it's a nice car but
> it's just not that earth moving when comapred to other cars that are
> out there.

Ok then...name the other 4 cylinder autos that you are comparing to?

>Honda had the perfect opportunity to build a great roadster
> but like the NSX they chose the path less travelled and built just
> another high reving engine with a price tag to boot.

And what is the more traveled path?

> No jealousy here. Just feel Honda dropped the ball and could have
> built a better car.

In what way? Please be specific.

And one more question...how old are you?



--
'03 S2000
'94 Accord

It's just about going fast...that's all...

http://home.insight.rr.com/cgreen/

<BenDover@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:3FF59862.31F336AC@mailcity.com...
> The truth is a stock 2003 S2000 will not do the quarter
> in 13.86, as he claims.

I don't know who claimed that time, but you are correct. I've seen a time
slip from a stock S2000 @ 13.692

> Besides who quits a race in
> 1/4 mile in the real world?

Huh!?

--
'03 S2000
'94 Accord

It's just about going fast...that's all...

http://home.insight.rr.com/cgreen/

"Robin Long" <rlong@matrix-controls.com> wrote in message
news:BC1B9FA5.5C14%rlong@matrix-controls.com...
> i think some ppl find it fun to wind up the engine to hear an F1 like
whine.
> Some other ppl have the skill to wind it up and keep it in the range round
> curvy black ribbon.
>
> So, it's a matter of driving style too. But if laid back is prefered for
> everyday driving, torque low down is a good friend, like in the Mustang.
>
> Robin

Good point, which I tried pointing out...they are two different
animals...apples and oranges.

Take care.

--
'03 S2000
'94 Accord

It's just about going fast...that's all...

http://home.insight.rr.com/cgreen/

<BenDover@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:3FF59862.31F336AC@mailcity.com...
> The truth is a stock 2003 S2000 will not do the quarter
> in 13.86, as he claims. Besides who quits a race in
> 1/4 mile in the real world?
>
>
> mike hunt

http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=2
Two tenths close enough, Anonymous Coward?


> robert Jones wrote:
> > > > Fast begins at 11.99 and
> > > > lower.
> > >
> > > Not for a stock four cylinder.
> >
> > It can be done.

Still waiting for an example.

"NetSock" <NetSock@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:bt46ka$nq5$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> >"robert Jones" <bobbinder@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:2f324cf6.0401020652.cec928c@posting.google.co m...
> > The only people who care about power per liter is you Honda people.
>
> What are you talking about? Its a well used term, and known measurement.
>
> > While the Honda engineers should be proud it's just not that great an
> > achievement.
>
> Somebody has to hold the title...and Honda has it. I don't understand your
> debating logic...you make little sense.

No kidding.
"It no great achievment, but Honda engineers should be proud."

WTF does that mean...?

<BenDover@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:3FF59962.A0FAB917@mailcity.com...
> Even if what you believe to be true was true, you are forgetting
> one must first race UP that the mountain before you car race
> down. LOL
>
>
> mike hunt

Figure of speech idiot. It doesn't matter which way, the Mustang would be
eating Honda exhaust fumes.

--
'03 S2000
'94 Accord

It's just about going fast...that's all...

http://home.insight.rr.com/cgreen/

Ya right, in your dreams. You just haven't yet met up with a
Mustang GT driven by a driver who actually knew you are racing
him. A GT can go around curves, up a windy mountain road, faster
that your S2000 can go down. My neighbor gave up trying to catch
my GT a long time ago. While he was busy 'rowing' the shifter to
get to the torque I was long gone. LOL


mike hunt




net suke wrote:
>
> <BenDover@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:3FF59962.A0FAB917@mailcity.com...
> > Even if what you believe to be true was true, you are forgetting
> > one must first race UP that the mountain before you car race
> > down. LOL
> >
> >
> > mike hunt
>
> Figure of speech idiot. It doesn't matter which way, the Mustang would be
> eating Honda exhaust fumes.
>
> --
> '03 S2000
> '94 Accord
>
> It's just about going fast...that's all...
>
> http://home.insight.rr.com/cgreen/

<MelvinGibson@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:3FF5F113.98A9A2DD@mailcity.com...
> Ya right, in your dreams.

Sorry idiot...that's a fact.

>You just haven't yet met up with a
> Mustang GT driven by a driver who actually knew you are racing
> him. A GT can go around curves, up a windy mountain road, faster
> that your S2000 can go down.

Now your just being ridiculous.

It is a known fact in the automotive world, the S2000 is one of the best
handling cars on the planet, and will *EASILY* out maneuver the high,
overweight, unbalanced, oversteering Mustang.

> My neighbor gave up trying to catch
> my GT a long time ago.

So what? What does that mean? I suppose now your going to tell us that your
"neighbor" has an S2000?

Again, your credibility precedes you...you are a known and proven liar here,
and always seem to "have" what ever the issue is at hand.

> While he was busy 'rowing' the shifter to
> get to the torque I was long gone. LOL

Two equally qualified drivers in an S2000, and a Mustang GT, will result in
an easy Honda win.

Go back to your village you liar.


--
'03 S2000
'94 Accord

It's just about going fast...that's all...

http://home.insight.rr.com/cgreen/