Honda Car Forum

"NetSock" <NetSock@nospam.com> wrote in message news:<bsshmi$8ut$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>...
>>
> The engine in my S2000 makes the most horsepower per cubic inch, than *ANY*
> other normally aspirated stock production engine on the planet.

So? You have the rev the crap out of it to get it.

>
> Weighing in at 2800 lbs with 240 hp, this *FOUR CYLINDER* completes the 1/4
> mile in 13.8 seconds.

For someone who has "a wealth of automotive knowledge" you would know
that 13.8 1/4's are respectable but not fast. Fast begins at 11.99 and
lower.

>
> Now are there faster cars? Sure there are, but if anybody doesn't think that
> this four cylinder car isn't "fast", well, they just have a screw loose...

Quick and nimble not fast. Guess I better get my screwdrivers out
then. The S2000 is a nice car but like the NSX overhyped and over
priced for what it is.

> ...And considering the source...'nuff said...
>
> Car to make comment on the boat ? How about the handling of my S2000? How
> about how it tears up a Mustang GT in the twistys?
>
> God I love it when you make a complete fool of yourself! LOL!
>
> >
> > mike hunt

"robert Jones" <bobbinder@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "NetSock" <NetSock@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> >>
> > The engine in my S2000 makes the most horsepower per cubic inch, than
*ANY*
> > other normally aspirated stock production engine on the planet.
>
> So? You have the rev the crap out of it to get it.

"So?" back at you...the fact remains...

> >
> > Weighing in at 2800 lbs with 240 hp, this *FOUR CYLINDER* completes the
1/4
> > mile in 13.8 seconds.
>
> For someone who has "a wealth of automotive knowledge" you would know
> that 13.8 1/4's are respectable but not fast.

Can you read?

13.8 is fast for any four cylinder. Care to name another stock four cylinder
that can run in the 13s?

Try reading slower next time.

> Fast begins at 11.99 and
> lower.

Not for a stock four cylinder.

Its obvious it is *you* that has an apparent lapse in track knowledge.

> >
> > Now are there faster cars? Sure there are, but if anybody doesn't think
that
> > this four cylinder car isn't "fast", well, they just have a screw
loose...
>
> Quick and nimble not fast. Guess I better get my screwdrivers out
> then. The S2000 is a nice car but like the NSX overhyped and over
> priced for what it is.


"Overhyped"? I don't know what your talking about here. Honda doesn't even
have a dedicated commercial for the S.

Hmm...sounds like someone may be jealous to me.

Take care.

--
'03 S2000
'94 Accord

It's just about going fast...that's all...

http://home.insight.rr.com/cgreen/

Is that why you bought an Accord instead of a Camry? LOL


mike hunt



Net Suck wrote:
>
> <MelvinGibson@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:3FF1FDF6.B2225CAD@mailcity.com...
> > Depends on who's driving the GT, I guess. My neighbor give up
> > a long time ago trying to catch my GT, on the straights or on the
> > twisties. His next car will be a Mustang GT. He will gain two
> > seats, a power roof and save $5,000 to buy all of his gas for
> > three years as well as pay for a years insurance.
> >
> >
> > mike hunt
>
> Nice response Mikey...unable to debate my many facts presented? Figures...
>
> But to reply to the Mustang comment...you get what you pay for...if you want
> an inferior and unrefined car, and one that's sitting in every other
> driveway...go for it.
>
> Good luck in life Mikey...
>
> --
> '03 S2000
> '94 Accord
>
> It's just about going fast...that's all...
>
> http://home.insight.rr.com/cgreen/

<BenDover@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:3FF32DE4.F3C840DB@mailcity.com...
> Is that why you bought an Accord instead of a Camry? LOL
>
>
> mike hunt

Man, you cannot be this stupid...

There are so many Accords around, because they have superior reliability,
dependability, and are the best value for the superb quality that you get
with any Honda. I bought my Accord, not to stand alone as a sports car, but
rather an every day car and commuter.

It figures that needed to be explained to you.

Now the reason there are so many Mustangs around, is because its a cheap
unrefined V8. This is why young kids choose this car. These cars are
unreliable, and have limited longevity. And when those young kids grow up,
they will look at their sports car needs differently. They will want a
"true" sports car. One that is refined, and of high quality. They will want
a sports car that is virtually track-ready right out of the box. They will
want individuality. They will want attention to detail. They will want true
white-knuckle fun...

They will want cars like S2000s... [huge smile]

Take care Mikey, and good luck in life.


--
'03 S2000
'94 Accord

It's just about going fast...that's all...

http://home.insight.rr.com/cgreen/

"robert Jones" <bobbinder@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "NetSock" <NetSock@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> > Weighing in at 2800 lbs with 240 hp, this *FOUR CYLINDER* completes the
1/4
> > mile in 13.8 seconds.
>
> For someone who has "a wealth of automotive knowledge" you would know
> that 13.8 1/4's are respectable but not fast. Fast begins at 11.99 and
> lower.

For a smog legal car with a warranty?

Name a few, that have four wheels?

You are correct, buyers buy the vehicle that best suits their
needs and budget. In the price range of the Camry, Accord and
Taurus they buy them in that order. Apparently more buyers
choose the Camry because they believe it has superior
reliability, dependability, and the best value for the superb
quality over the Accord or the Ford. The kids buying Mustangs
are buying the 21K V6 coupe, not the GT. The guys with 25/28K
buy the GT coupe/convertible. If they have 33K they buy the 305
HP Mach I or 390 HP Cobra. The Mustang GT must outsell the
S2000 by at least twenty to one. One can therefor only assume
buyers believe the Mustang has superior reliability,
dependability, and the best value for the superb quality over the
S2000. After all that unrefined OHC SMEFI V8 GT will out perform
the S2000 in every aspect and it does so at 3000 RPM's not at
6,000 RPM. If I were spending 33K for a Honda that performed
adequately, I would buy the TL, at least it develops decent
torque without winding it to 7K to get on the curve. In addition
the TL has room to take along a few friends when on wants. Bye
the way, Happy New Year, and I
gotta go.



Net Suck wrote:
>
> <BenDover@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:3FF32DE4.F3C840DB@mailcity.com...
> > Is that why you bought an Accord instead of a Camry? LOL
> >
> >
> > mike hunt
>
> Man, you cannot be this stupid...
>
> There are so many Accords around, because they have superior reliability,
> dependability, and are the best value for the superb quality that you get
> with any Honda. I bought my Accord, not to stand alone as a sports car, but
> rather an every day car and commuter.
>
> It figures that needed to be explained to you.
>
> Now the reason there are so many Mustangs around, is because its a cheap
> unrefined V8. This is why young kids choose this car. These cars are
> unreliable, and have limited longevity. And when those young kids grow up,
> they will look at their sports car needs differently. They will want a
> "true" sports car. One that is refined, and of high quality. They will want
> a sports car that is virtually track-ready right out of the box. They will
> want individuality. They will want attention to detail. They will want true
> white-knuckle fun...
>
> They will want cars like S2000s... [huge smile]
>
> Take care Mikey, and good luck in life.
>
> --
> '03 S2000
> '94 Accord
>
> It's just about going fast...that's all...
>
> http://home.insight.rr.com/cgreen/

<BenDover@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:3FF45AAF.F6B94B51@mailcity.com...
> You are correct, buyers buy the vehicle that best suits their
> needs and budget. In the price range of the Camry, Accord and
> Taurus they buy them in that order. Apparently more buyers
> choose the Camry because they believe it has superior
> reliability, dependability, and the best value for the superb
> quality over the Accord or the Ford. The kids buying Mustangs
> are buying the 21K V6 coupe, not the GT. The guys with 25/28K
> buy the GT coupe/convertible. If they have 33K they buy the 305
> HP Mach I or 390 HP Cobra. The Mustang GT must outsell the
> S2000 by at least twenty to one. One can therefor only assume
> buyers believe the Mustang has superior reliability,
> dependability, and the best value for the superb quality over the
> S2000.

LOL! LOL! LOL!


>After all that unrefined OHC SMEFI V8 GT will out perform
> the S2000 in every aspect and it does so at 3000 RPM's not at
> 6,000 RPM.

Apples and oranges, you are comparing a V8 to a 4.

And your wrong as well...the S2000 would tear up ANY mustang thru the
twisties.


> If I were spending 33K for a Honda that performed
> adequately, I would buy the TL, at least it develops decent
> torque without winding it to 7K to get on the curve.

Again...apples and oranges.

Only you would try to server your agenda, buy not comparing like
automobiles. And only you are dumb enough to believe you would get away with
it.

Your an idiot.

> In addition
> the TL has room to take along a few friends when on wants.

Two-seat sport cars have two seats for a reason you fool.

Let send the TL and the S2000 down a twisty mountain road...Ill see ya at
the bottom after I've already had a couple drinks.

> Bye
> the way, Happy New Year, and I
> gotta go.

For good we hope...


--
'03 S2000
'94 Accord

It's just about going fast...that's all...

http://home.insight.rr.com/cgreen/

i think some ppl find it fun to wind up the engine to hear an F1 like whine.
Some other ppl have the skill to wind it up and keep it in the range round
curvy black ribbon.

So, it's a matter of driving style too. But if laid back is prefered for
everyday driving, torque low down is a good friend, like in the Mustang.

Robin

> From: BenDover@mailcity.com
> Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.honda
> Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2004 12:36:47 -0500
> Subject: Re: S2000
>
> You are correct, buyers buy the vehicle that best suits their
> needs and budget. In the price range of the Camry, Accord and
> Taurus they buy them in that order. Apparently more buyers
> choose the Camry because they believe it has superior
> reliability, dependability, and the best value for the superb
> quality over the Accord or the Ford. The kids buying Mustangs
> are buying the 21K V6 coupe, not the GT. The guys with 25/28K
> buy the GT coupe/convertible. If they have 33K they buy the 305
> HP Mach I or 390 HP Cobra. The Mustang GT must outsell the
> S2000 by at least twenty to one. One can therefor only assume
> buyers believe the Mustang has superior reliability,
> dependability, and the best value for the superb quality over the
> S2000. After all that unrefined OHC SMEFI V8 GT will out perform
> the S2000 in every aspect and it does so at 3000 RPM's not at
> 6,000 RPM. If I were spending 33K for a Honda that performed
> adequately, I would buy the TL, at least it develops decent
> torque without winding it to 7K to get on the curve. In addition
> the TL has room to take along a few friends when on wants. Bye
> the way, Happy New Year, and I
> gotta go.
>
>
>
> Net Suck wrote:
>>
>> <BenDover@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>> news:3FF32DE4.F3C840DB@mailcity.com...
>>> Is that why you bought an Accord instead of a Camry? LOL
>>>
>>>
>>> mike hunt
>>
>> Man, you cannot be this stupid...
>>
>> There are so many Accords around, because they have superior reliability,
>> dependability, and are the best value for the superb quality that you get
>> with any Honda. I bought my Accord, not to stand alone as a sports car, but
>> rather an every day car and commuter.
>>
>> It figures that needed to be explained to you.
>>
>> Now the reason there are so many Mustangs around, is because its a cheap
>> unrefined V8. This is why young kids choose this car. These cars are
>> unreliable, and have limited longevity. And when those young kids grow up,
>> they will look at their sports car needs differently. They will want a
>> "true" sports car. One that is refined, and of high quality. They will want
>> a sports car that is virtually track-ready right out of the box. They will
>> want individuality. They will want attention to detail. They will want true
>> white-knuckle fun...
>>
>> They will want cars like S2000s... [huge smile]
>>
>> Take care Mikey, and good luck in life.
>>
>> --
>> '03 S2000
>> '94 Accord
>>
>> It's just about going fast...that's all...
>>
>> http://home.insight.rr.com/cgreen/

"NetSock" <NetSock@nospam.com> wrote in message news:<bsuvj3$ffo$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>...
> "robert Jones" <bobbinder@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:2f324cf6.0312310845.6c27f732@posting.google.c om...
> > "NetSock" <NetSock@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:<bsshmi$8ut$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>...
> > >>
> > > The engine in my S2000 makes the most horsepower per cubic inch, than
> *ANY*
> > > other normally aspirated stock production engine on the planet.
> >
> > So? You have the rev the crap out of it to get it.
>
> "So?" back at you...the fact remains...

The only people who care about power per liter is you Honda people.
While the Honda engineers should be proud it's just not that great an
achievement.


>
> > >
> > > Weighing in at 2800 lbs with 240 hp, this *FOUR CYLINDER* completes the
> 1/4
> > > mile in 13.8 seconds.
> >
> > For someone who has "a wealth of automotive knowledge" you would know
> > that 13.8 1/4's are respectable but not fast.
>
> Can you read?

Can you get it through your honda brainwashed head that 13.8 in any
car is not fast 4 cylinder or not. Comeback and see me when that same
4 cylinder can run 11.99 or better. In the grand scheme of things 13.8
just isn't fast anymore.

>
> 13.8 is fast for any four cylinder. Care to name another stock four cylinder
> that can run in the 13s?

Well when I look at the results of NOPI comp 4 I see Integras in the
12's with what I would consider to be stock engines.

>

Try taking off your Honda Blinders

>
> > Fast begins at 11.99 and
> > lower.
>
> Not for a stock four cylinder.

It can be done.

> Its obvious it is *you* that has an apparent lapse in track knowledge.
>

Umm No not really. Just different opinon than you. Consistent 12:51's
all day every Sunday

> > >
> > > Now are there faster cars? Sure there are, but if anybody doesn't think
> that
> > > this four cylinder car isn't "fast", well, they just have a screw
> loose...
> >
> > Quick and nimble not fast. Guess I better get my screwdrivers out
> > then. The S2000 is a nice car but like the NSX overhyped and over
> > priced for what it is.
>
>
> "Overhyped"? I don't know what your talking about here. Honda doesn't even
> have a dedicated commercial for the S.

They don't need one. All you Hondaites do it for them. I can't count
the number of times I've heard someone say. "I would have beat you if
I had an S2000"

Honda should be commended for building the S2000 it's a nice car but
it's just not that earth moving when comapred to other cars that are
out there. Honda had the perfect opportunity to build a great roadster
but like the NSX they chose the path less travelled and built just
another high reving engine with a price tag to boot.
>
> Hmm...sounds like someone may be jealous to me.

No jealousy here. Just feel Honda dropped the ball and could have
built a better car.

>
> Take care.

"robert Jones" <bobbinder@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2f324cf6.0401020652.cec928c@posting.google.co m...

> > > Fast begins at 11.99 and
> > > lower.
> >
> > Not for a stock four cylinder.
>
> It can be done.

Name it, please.