Honda Car Forum

If you have a problem with a 2003 or 2004, why post it here for a fix? Take
it in for warranty repair. To post it here for people to say "take it in" is
a waste of time for the rest of us.

5 time Honda Owner

On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 01:25:03 GMT, "Sandlot" <sandlot@yahoo.com> wrote:

>If you have a problem with a 2003 or 2004, why post it here for a fix? Take
>it in for warranty repair. To post it here for people to say "take it in" is
>a waste of time for the rest of us.

Personally I'll bend over backwards to stay away from the dealer entirely
even for minor warranty work. As an example, why anybody would prefer the
aggro involved in having a burned out bulb replaced by the dealer vs.
replacing yourself is beyond me - I'd rather pay for the bulb and DIY.

This newsgroup is about discussing Hondas in general, finding fixes is only
part of the purpose - finding quirks, glitches etc. which are common among
a group of owners is a useful exercise.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

If you think any of us have anymore experience that those Certified
mechanics, your crazy. Yes there are many good mechanics out here. However,
they have no machine to diagnose nor are they there to witness the failure.
Any work you perform based on newsgroup will undoubtedly cancel your
warranty. A new Honda EX is about 28k. Am I willing to take a chance on a
yard mechanic, I don't think so.


"George Macdonald" <fammacd=!SPAM^nothanks@tellurian.com> wrote in message
news:3vnvuv8dkm5ti50r1vas2i4otsroccarft@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 01:25:03 GMT, "Sandlot" <sandlot@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >If you have a problem with a 2003 or 2004, why post it here for a fix?
Take
> >it in for warranty repair. To post it here for people to say "take it in"
is
> >a waste of time for the rest of us.
>
> Personally I'll bend over backwards to stay away from the dealer entirely
> even for minor warranty work. As an example, why anybody would prefer the
> aggro involved in having a burned out bulb replaced by the dealer vs.
> replacing yourself is beyond me - I'd rather pay for the bulb and DIY.
>
> This newsgroup is about discussing Hondas in general, finding fixes is
only
> part of the purpose - finding quirks, glitches etc. which are common among
> a group of owners is a useful exercise.
>
> Rgds, George Macdonald
>
> "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who,
me??

I don't agree totally.

If someone's horn quite working (for example), there is no harm in telling
them to check the connector (at the horn) and the fuse. This is very typical
advice one would receive here, and it would not "invalidate" the warranty if
they were to take it upon thereself to fix.

There are also some of us that have more experience than the "certified
tech" that would end up working on our cars. Additionally, it is also
typical to take a greater "pride" in workmanship, when you are working on
your own car.

And lastly, any repairs that are done by dealers, gets billed back to the
factory. Wanna guess how they recoup those costs? That's right...higher car
prices for all of us.

Now don't get me wrong...any warranty work that is major, or that would
effect the validity of a warranty, should be referred to the dealer, but I
just don't agree with your "across the board" statement.

Take care.

--
'03 S2000
'94 Accord

It's just about going fast...that's all...

http://home.insight.rr.com/cgreen/
"Sandlot" <sandlot@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:PnLHb.3281$r07.1616@newssvr29.news.prodigy.co m...
> If you have a problem with a 2003 or 2004, why post it here for a fix?
Take
> it in for warranty repair. To post it here for people to say "take it in"
is
> a waste of time for the rest of us.
>
> 5 time Honda Owner
>
>

Good point.

I have also heard countless stories about scratches, damages, and thefts
while their car was in the "custody" of the dealership.

And you also might want to consider how many different people are driving
your car...and how they are operating it...especially if you have a "high
end" or performance car.

I wonder what kind of "test drive" the 20 year old "certified technician"
would give my S2000 after a tire balance...

Take care.

--
'03 S2000
'94 Accord

It's just about going fast...that's all...

http://home.insight.rr.com/cgreen/
"George Macdonald" <fammacd=!SPAM^nothanks@tellurian.com> wrote in message
news:3vnvuv8dkm5ti50r1vas2i4otsroccarft@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 01:25:03 GMT, "Sandlot" <sandlot@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >If you have a problem with a 2003 or 2004, why post it here for a fix?
Take
> >it in for warranty repair. To post it here for people to say "take it in"
is
> >a waste of time for the rest of us.
>
> Personally I'll bend over backwards to stay away from the dealer entirely
> even for minor warranty work. As an example, why anybody would prefer the
> aggro involved in having a burned out bulb replaced by the dealer vs.
> replacing yourself is beyond me - I'd rather pay for the bulb and DIY.
>
> This newsgroup is about discussing Hondas in general, finding fixes is
only
> part of the purpose - finding quirks, glitches etc. which are common among
> a group of owners is a useful exercise.
>
> Rgds, George Macdonald
>
> "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who,
me??

Sandlot wrote:
> If you have a problem with a 2003 or 2004, why post it here for a fix? Take
> it in for warranty repair. To post it here for people to say "take it in" is
> a waste of time for the rest of us.
>
> 5 time Honda Owner
>


====================

Why? Because that's what newsgroups are for. Experienced owners and
potential owners still want / need to know what's coming in the newer
models.

Some new owners live 100 miles from their dealer. Some will ask for help
from the broad knowledge base represented here, rather than spend an
hour on the phone with a dealer that doesn't read (or understand) the
service bulletins that arrive daily. Some folks can't get along without
their car for a week while the dealer swaps the rear differential three
times (CRV) before they find out what's really causing the problem. :-(

Sure, the ones who haven't figured out what the owner's manual is their
_friend_ should be shot at dawn, but they're here for _our_ entertainment.

'Curly'

=======================

Even an experienced technician can not properly evaluate a
problem from afar. Without a qualified person with the proper
equipment on the other end to do the actually work, one is merely
making an educated guess. Why folks will try to save a
comparably few dollars on the maintenance, on a vehicle that
costs nearly 30K, is sort of foolish IMO. Take your vehicle to
the guys that know it best at a dealership. You will be best
served in the long run.


mike hunt



Bob wrote:
>
> If you think any of us have anymore experience that those Certified
> mechanics, your crazy. Yes there are many good mechanics out here. However,
> they have no machine to diagnose nor are they there to witness the failure.
> Any work you perform based on newsgroup will undoubtedly cancel your
> warranty. A new Honda EX is about 28k. Am I willing to take a chance on a
> yard mechanic, I don't think so.
>
> "George Macdonald" <fammacd=!SPAM^nothanks@tellurian.com> wrote in message
> news:3vnvuv8dkm5ti50r1vas2i4otsroccarft@4ax.com...
> > On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 01:25:03 GMT, "Sandlot" <sandlot@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > >If you have a problem with a 2003 or 2004, why post it here for a fix?
> Take
> > >it in for warranty repair. To post it here for people to say "take it in"
> is
> > >a waste of time for the rest of us.
> >
> > Personally I'll bend over backwards to stay away from the dealer entirely
> > even for minor warranty work. As an example, why anybody would prefer the
> > aggro involved in having a burned out bulb replaced by the dealer vs.
> > replacing yourself is beyond me - I'd rather pay for the bulb and DIY.
> >
> > This newsgroup is about discussing Hondas in general, finding fixes is
> only
> > part of the purpose - finding quirks, glitches etc. which are common among
> > a group of owners is a useful exercise.
> >
> > Rgds, George Macdonald
> >
> > "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who,
> me??

Hey Mikey...you're back!

Didn't miss ya much, but I am glad to see your back to your self serving
agenda.

How was the village over the holidays?

Hope they didn't tie ya to a post and stone ya!

<MikeHunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:3FF07707.995236F4@mailcity.com...
> Even an experienced technician can not properly evaluate a
> problem from afar.

Ahh...the wisdom returns...

>Without a qualified person with the proper
> equipment on the other end to do the actually work, one is merely
> making an educated guess.

Wow! I see the holiday break has rested your brain cells!

>Why folks will try to save a
> comparably few dollars on the maintenance, on a vehicle that
> costs nearly 30K, is sort of foolish IMO.

Yea...but your opinion isn't worth nothing here...sorry.

> Take your vehicle to
> the guys that know it best at a dealership.

This is nothing more than generalized statement, that hold no
merit...nothing more.

>You will be best
> served in the long run...

....if you don't listen to Mikey.


--
'03 S2000
'94 Accord

It's just about going fast...that's all...

http://home.insight.rr.com/cgreen/

Bob wrote:

> If you think any of us have anymore experience that those Certified
> mechanics, your crazy. Yes there are many good mechanics out here. However,
> they have no machine to diagnose nor are they there to witness the failure.
> Any work you perform based on newsgroup will undoubtedly cancel your
> warranty. A new Honda EX is about 28k. Am I willing to take a chance on a
> yard mechanic, I don't think so.

Wow, where are you buying your Hondas? I paid $20,500 for my '03 EX sedan.

On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 16:16:12 GMT, "Bob" <rjortiz@hotmail.com> wrote:

>If you think any of us have anymore experience that those Certified
>mechanics, your crazy. Yes there are many good mechanics out here. However,
>they have no machine to diagnose nor are they there to witness the failure.
>Any work you perform based on newsgroup will undoubtedly cancel your
>warranty. A new Honda EX is about 28k. Am I willing to take a chance on a
>yard mechanic, I don't think so.

I do *not* need lessons in the abuses performed by "certified mechanics"
and their bosses. If you want your precious EX to be the dealership gopher
car for most of the day or just a joyrider for the unofficial top-speed
tester at the dealership go ahead; if you want fasteners broken and parts
which get in the way of the piece rate thrown away, go ahead. Meanwhile
the rest of us will continue to DIY and have reliable transportation with
only a few minutes and $$ inconvenience for such things as replacing a
headlamp or marker bulb.

As for the warranty cancellation - utter BS!

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??