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Old 29 Dec 2003, 04:54 pm
Bob
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Yep, in CA we pay big buck for them. 20k for all leather EX with spoiler
ect.?

"Gus" <GusPod@optOFFline.XXXX.net> wrote in message
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> Bob wrote:
>
> > If you think any of us have anymore experience that those Certified
> > mechanics, your crazy. Yes there are many good mechanics out here.

However,
> > they have no machine to diagnose nor are they there to witness the

failure.
> > Any work you perform based on newsgroup will undoubtedly cancel your
> > warranty. A new Honda EX is about 28k. Am I willing to take a chance on

a
> > yard mechanic, I don't think so.

>
> Wow, where are you buying your Hondas? I paid $20,500 for my '03 EX sedan.
>



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Old 29 Dec 2003, 08:13 pm
Stephen Bigelow
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"NetSock" <NetSock@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> I don't agree totally.


> And lastly, any repairs that are done by dealers, gets billed back to the
> factory. Wanna guess how they recoup those costs? That's right...higher

car
> prices for all of us.


Secondly lastly, I prefer to do repairs on my schedule, not my dealers.


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Old 30 Dec 2003, 06:15 am
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Bob wrote:

> Yep, in CA we pay big buck for them. 20k for all leather EX with spoiler
> ect.?


No leather, no spoiler. Only extra cost option was AT

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Old 30 Dec 2003, 06:18 am
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NetSock wrote:

(snip)

> And lastly, any repairs that are done by dealers, gets billed back to the
> factory. Wanna guess how they recoup those costs? That's right...higher car
> prices for all of us.


Warrantys are basically insurance and what you describe is true of any
insurance company, i.e., recouping costs.

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Old 31 Dec 2003, 09:32 pm
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I do take it in for warranty repair at the dealership. This group
doesn't exclude that. Some examples:

Wife's 2003 CRV dome bulb worked only sometimes and usually not at
night. The dealership found nothing during the day and did nothing. The
light was again not working the night after my wife brought it home from
service. Thanks to information from others here, I figured it had to be
the bulb. Put a new one in myself. Fixed it the next day. I could have
waited two more weeks for another appointment, but it wasn't worth
putting my kids in a dark car for that long.

I am about to bring my 2003 Accord EX V6 in. I know from this group that
my driver seat moving is rather common and plan to be rather emphatic
about it being fixed. I also know that Honda hasn't provided a good fix
yet either.

I got burned on my old 1994 Accord EX, I didn't know about a TSB about a
problem that plagued me for years. By the time I called Honda after
finding out about the TSB, I was out of warranty and out of luck.

I also agree about other reasons listed from other folks. While warranty
work is "free" in the sense that you are not charged money, it still
costs. Time is very valuable to me. To juggle kids, work, and schedule
just to get a car in for a service appointment is enough hassle. Then
there is tangling with the service department. <g> Information about
what to expect helps me make more efficient use of my time (and
irritation!).

As a group, we Honda owners can better assure Honda fixes deficiencies
by sharing information about our problems with our new Honda's. Sharing
information is especially important as Honda does not make TSB's
available to us like some other car makes. Knowledge is power.

I say, post your problems, solutions and ideas.



Sandlot wrote:

> If you have a problem with a 2003 or 2004, why post it here for a fix? Take
> it in for warranty repair. To post it here for people to say "take it in" is
> a waste of time for the rest of us.
>
> 5 time Honda Owner
>
>


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Old 05 Jan 2004, 12:25 am
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"Sandlot" <sandlot@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> If you have a problem with a 2003 or 2004, why post it here for a fix?

Take
> it in for warranty repair. To post it here for people to say "take it in"

is
> a waste of time for the rest of us.



Because when I took it to the dealer they kept the car for three days
without fixing the problem.

John


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Old 05 Jan 2004, 10:41 pm
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One benefit of frequent dealership visits is a constant supply of new tools.
My car has been to the dealer five times in the last three months, and from
that, I have obtained a nice Snap-on hook tool, a special Honda door clip
removal tool, and a nice Snap-on socket extension - all left in my car after
service work.

"George Macdonald" <fammacd=!SPAM^nothanks@tellurian.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 16:16:12 GMT, "Bob" <rjortiz@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >If you think any of us have anymore experience that those Certified
> >mechanics, your crazy. Yes there are many good mechanics out here.

However,
> >they have no machine to diagnose nor are they there to witness the

failure.
> >Any work you perform based on newsgroup will undoubtedly cancel your
> >warranty. A new Honda EX is about 28k. Am I willing to take a chance on a
> >yard mechanic, I don't think so.

>
> I do *not* need lessons in the abuses performed by "certified mechanics"
> and their bosses. If you want your precious EX to be the dealership

gopher
> car for most of the day or just a joyrider for the unofficial top-speed
> tester at the dealership go ahead; if you want fasteners broken and parts
> which get in the way of the piece rate thrown away, go ahead. Meanwhile
> the rest of us will continue to DIY and have reliable transportation with
> only a few minutes and $$ inconvenience for such things as replacing a
> headlamp or marker bulb.
>
> As for the warranty cancellation - utter BS!
>
> Rgds, George Macdonald
>
> "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who,

me??


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Old 06 Jan 2004, 06:49 pm
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On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 22:41:36 -0500, "Scott MacLean"
<scottmNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote:

>One benefit of frequent dealership visits is a constant supply of new tools.
>My car has been to the dealer five times in the last three months, and from
>that, I have obtained a nice Snap-on hook tool, a special Honda door clip
>removal tool, and a nice Snap-on socket extension - all left in my car after
>service work.


That's only "good" if they are left in an accessible place.:-) I had a VW
Beetle which had a mysterious clunk on moderately hard corners - right
corner... clunk, right corner... no clunk, left corner... clunk, left
corner... no clunk......

When someone else drove the car with me in the front passenger seat it was
plainly coming from in front of the passenger. There was a body "cavity"
in the (front) trunk, behind the wheel well which I couldn't get my right
arm down to feel for anything but one day discovered I could get my left
arm down there, with a bit of grease on it, and I was able to fish out a
pair of pliers - still have those pliers.:-)

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
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Old 10 Jan 2004, 01:42 am
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>>that, I have obtained a nice Snap-on hook tool, a special Honda door clip
>>removal tool, and a nice Snap-on socket extension - all left in my car

after
>>service work.


Makes you wonder what else the forgot. Scary to think we put our lives in
their hands.


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Old 25 Jan 2004, 11:11 am
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> > I have a 2003 crv we bought in the fall we live manitoba canada and the weather here is very cold we have found when there is cold temps out side this vehicles emobilizer becomes inop took it to our local dealer who would do nothing to help ous any one have a cure ?


sincerly disapponted
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