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Driver's window stopped on this LX 4-door. Switch wouldn't do anything. If I
hold the switch up or down and give the window a tug, it will continue to the
top or bottom.

Is this the motor going out? If so, I see that they list for almost $300 and
retail for a bit over $200. Can these be rebuilt? Anyone done this? Are
brushes easy to replace on these?

How tough is the motor and regulator to get out of these cars?
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Don't know about the troubleshooting part, but if you really need a new
motor go to http://www.a1electric.com/catalog/cat_hondamtr.htm for a sub
$100 alternative. I have bought a power door lock kit from that company
once and they are easy to deal with.

DaveC wrote:
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> Driver's window stopped on this LX 4-door. Switch wouldn't do anything. If I
> hold the switch up or down and give the window a tug, it will continue to the
> top or bottom.
>
> Is this the motor going out? If so, I see that they list for almost $300 and
> retail for a bit over $200. Can these be rebuilt? Anyone done this? Are
> brushes easy to replace on these?
>
> How tough is the motor and regulator to get out of these cars?
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> DaveC
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On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:02:31 -0800, Randolph wrote
(in message <3FD81659.E8BE10AB@junkmail.com>):

> http://www.a1electric.com/catalog/cat_hondamtr.htm

Thanks,

Anyone have experience installing this brand motor & regulator? Is the fit
good? Any problems with function?

BTW, can I just swap the passenger side motor with the driver's side? (I know
the regulator won't swap).

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2 or 4 Door?

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> BTW, can I just swap the passenger side motor with the driver's side? (I know
> the regulator won't swap).
> i

On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 9:28:34 -0800, N.E.Ohio Bob wrote
(in message <3FD8ABBF.BC4557B6@neo.rr.com>):

> 2 or 4 Door?

4-door LX

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In the past, I've used the inside door handle part from the rear door
to fix the front one. May be something to try with the motor. bob

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> On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 9:28:34 -0800, N.E.Ohio Bob wrote
> (in message <3FD8ABBF.BC4557B6@neo.rr.com>):
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> > 2 or 4 Door?
>
> 4-door LX
>
> Thanks,
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Hi,

Sounds like it probably is the motor on the way out, but it may also be
worth checking and greasing the runners/slides that operate the window.

I have a 94 Accord, and had a similar problem with the window stopping and
it turned out that a small plastic guide-wheel that turns inside the lower
runner had sheered and caused the window to 'stick'. I greased everything
and it worked great for a short time, until the plastic wheel decided to
jump out of the runner, and warp it badly!!!! Now I am going to have to
change the whole sliding mechanism.

Good luck

Gary

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> Driver's window stopped on this LX 4-door. Switch wouldn't do anything. If
I
> hold the switch up or down and give the window a tug, it will continue to
the
> top or bottom.
>
> Is this the motor going out? If so, I see that they list for almost $300
and
> retail for a bit over $200. Can these be rebuilt? Anyone done this? Are
> brushes easy to replace on these?
>
> How tough is the motor and regulator to get out of these cars?
> --
> DaveC
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>

Dave,
Does the motor seem like it's running at all? The reason
I ask is I had a problem with the power windows on my
89 LXi. I unnecessarily took the glass and motor out
only to find it was the "black box" that allows the window
to go all of the way down with a button push. After getting
the door apart (and that was no fun), I was bummed to
find the motor was good.

Below is my post from yesterday.

Subject: Re: 91 Accord doesn't start
Newsgroups: alt.autos.honda

Besides fixing several MAIN relay's on my and a few
other Hondas, my 89 accord had a power window
controller that went bad. Guess what; it had a broken
solder joint much like the MAIN relay problem. What's
going on with Honda's soldering? It could also be a
design issue of not properly bracing a component to the
printed circuit board and just depending on the solder to
hold it. Then with vibrations and jolts that in an environ-
ment like a car, eventual failure.

Good luck,
chuck

DaveC wrote:

> Driver's window stopped on this LX 4-door. Switch wouldn't do anything. If I
> hold the switch up or down and give the window a tug, it will continue to the
> top or bottom.
>
> Is this the motor going out? If so, I see that they list for almost $300 and
> retail for a bit over $200. Can these be rebuilt? Anyone done this? Are
> brushes easy to replace on these?
>
> How tough is the motor and regulator to get out of these cars?
> --
> DaveC

Yeah, I had a bad driver's window on my 91 accord. The motor was
fine, but the mechanism got stuck because the metal teeth on the
regulator were worn (all pointy instead of round-tipped) and the nylon
gears off the motor shaft were shot.

Always looking for the cheap out, I greased it all up and put it back
together. Worked great for a couple days. I ended up with a new
motor and regulator and pulling the door apart half a dozen times b/c
I was so cheap about it.

Shop around and get a deal for around $150 on the motor and regulator
and you'll be all set.

On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 19:24:03 -0500, chuck smoko <csmoko@earthlink.net>
wrote:

Somewhere, probably in the motor case will be a limit switch (or two)
to stop the motor when the glass is at end of travel. I would guess
it's spring loaded switch with diodes. When the glass is fully up, a
diode is switched-in to allow the motor to go "down" only. When you
pull on the glass you are probably resetting the switch. The switches
are not shown on the wiring diagrams.

Before you buy a new mechanism, grease everything on the mechanism,
that may be all you need to to fix it. The resistance of the frozed
joint may be causing the limits to think the glass is a end of travel.

I do motor control for a living, I am not an auto mechanic. On one of
my projects, the limits would be separate devices.

I wish you luck.

PS. The window on my '92 Accord was acting up and making lots of noise
so I greased it and it now works properly. Use White Lithium Grease
not oil, and definately not WD40.

>Dave,
>Does the motor seem like it's running at all? The reason
>I ask is I had a problem with the power windows on my
>89 LXi. I unnecessarily took the glass and motor out
>only to find it was the "black box" that allows the window
>to go all of the way down with a button push. After getting
>the door apart (and that was no fun), I was bummed to
>find the motor was good.
>
>Below is my post from yesterday.
>
> Subject: Re: 91 Accord doesn't start
> Newsgroups: alt.autos.honda
>
> Besides fixing several MAIN relay's on my and a few
> other Hondas, my 89 accord had a power window
> controller that went bad. Guess what; it had a broken
> solder joint much like the MAIN relay problem. What's
> going on with Honda's soldering? It could also be a
> design issue of not properly bracing a component to the
> printed circuit board and just depending on the solder to
> hold it. Then with vibrations and jolts that in an environ-
> ment like a car, eventual failure.
>
>Good luck,
>chuck
>
>DaveC wrote:
>
>> Driver's window stopped on this LX 4-door. Switch wouldn't do anything. If I
>> hold the switch up or down and give the window a tug, it will continue to the
>> top or bottom.
>>
>> Is this the motor going out? If so, I see that they list for almost $300 and
>> retail for a bit over $200. Can these be rebuilt? Anyone done this? Are
>> brushes easy to replace on these?
>>
>> How tough is the motor and regulator to get out of these cars?
>> --
>> DaveC