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#11 (**permalink**) 02 Dec 2003, 01:30 pm

I wish to recant my statement of yesterday. Or at least clarify it.

The V6 traction control is useless when there is *some* traction (i.e. wet
road).

It works quite well when there is very little traction, like in the snow, as
I discovered this morning.

"Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message
news:b3Kyb.3908$zf2.487776@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
> Don't bother. The traction control on the V6 is useless at best.
>
> "Don" <engguy58@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:508bb6e7.0311290738.1b0ce6b6@posting.google.c om...
> > I'd really like to by a 4 cylinder Accord, but I want traction
> > control.
> >
> > Traction control is available with the V6, but I don't want to send
> > any more money to the Arabs (fuel costs) than I have to. The 4 cyl
> > Accord has good fuel mileage for its class.
> >
> > If they can make it for the V6, why can't they put it on the 4
> > cylinder? Does Honda have any plans to make traction control
> > available for the 4 cyl Accord?
> >
> > (I may eventually buy a less desirable GM mid-size just to get
> > traction control. Come on Honda. How about it?)
>
>

#12 (**permalink**) 03 Dec 2003, 12:03 am

save the money and buy a set of snow tires for the winter
double the life of the stock tires.

my traction control didn't help me out of my icey driveway
last winter...still had to rock my way out a few times

"Don" <engguy58@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Sean Donaher" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message
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> > "Don" <engguy58@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:508bb6e7.0311301703.3e6e7bae@posting.google.c om...
> > > "Sean Donaher" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message
> > news:<i_ayb.662$IF6.46731@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca>...
> > > > Don't drive like a retard during the winter and you won't need
traction
> > > > control. Take the money you saved by not buying the V6 and take
some
> > > > driving lessons. I've never talked to anyone who had traction
control
> > and
> > > > liked it. All it does is trigger the rev limiter when the front
wheels
> > slip
> > > > so you lose power. Christ, you can do that yourself, just take your
> > foot
> > > > off the gas a bit. There I just saved you a couple thousand bucks.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > I drive a Saturn with traction control and it works well in snow.
> > > Sean is wrong about "All it does is trigger the rev limiter when the
> > > front wheels slip
> > > so you lose power." Traction control also applies the brakes to the
> > > slipping wheel so that the opposite wheel gains torque. You get
> > > 2-wheel drive rather than one-wheel drive and that IS helpful in snow!
> > >
> > > Most Americans are ignorant about traction control. Front wheel drive
> > > with traction control is almost as effective as 4 wheel drive, but
> > > without the high center of gravity and the weight of another drive
> > > train. And yes, some of us think that even a small improvement in gas
> > > mileage is important. So traction control isn't just for "retards."
> >
> > When I did I ever say I was an American? I'm Canadian, so I know what
I'm
> > talking about when it comes to snow. Also, why do you think that almost
> > every car with traction control has a button to turn it off? Maybe
because
> > the car companies realize that there are many situations where traction
> > control is detrimental? Traction control is in the same league as ABS.
> > Learn to drive properly, and you'll never need it.
>
> My statement that most Americans are ignorant about traction control
> still stands. It was not a reflection on Sean. I'm sure Canadians,
> in general, are more informed than Americans on this issue.
>
> Imagine the right side of a car is stuck in a snow bank and the left
> side is on bare pavement. Most cars will just spin the wheel in the
> snow. A car with traction control will apply the brakes to the
> spinning wheel. The other wheel gets the torque and you get the car
> moving. How is that a bad thing?
>
> As for the turn off switch, if both wheels are stuck, you can turn off
> the traction control to achieve a "rocking" action to help get your
> car free. Also, perhaps some people like to spin their tires. But
> overall, traction control and ABS are worth the extra cost.

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