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Just wondering here; I recently bought 4 Bridgestone Blizzak tires mounted.
I'm aware of the reason for needing all 4 traction wise as opposed to just
front, (swapping ends and all.) What I was thinking was in order to save
some tread wear, is it ok to remove the front Blizzaks with the all year
tire and leave the rear on since the rear is being pulled (front wheel
drive) I don't see a risk of swapping ends. I'm thinking of this for between
snow falls. Am I nuts or what?

Thanks...

On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:16:06 GMT, "Forest" <forest@myhome.com> wrote:

>Just wondering here; I recently bought 4 Bridgestone Blizzak tires mounted.
>I'm aware of the reason for needing all 4 traction wise as opposed to just
>front, (swapping ends and all.) What I was thinking was in order to save
>some tread wear, is it ok to remove the front Blizzaks with the all year
>tire and leave the rear on since the rear is being pulled (front wheel
>drive) I don't see a risk of swapping ends. I'm thinking of this for between
>snow falls. Am I nuts or what?
>
>Thanks...

The first half of the Blizzak tread is a soft compound intended for
cold ice/snow traction. If you run it in hot weather, that layer will
quickly wear down to the harder compound beneath it. Then, when the
next season comes around they won't be good as winter tires. Not only
will the tread be too hard but the tread will lack the depth for snow.
Winter tires are no good for snow when about half the tread is gone.

The effect of having different tires front to back is somewhat
unpredictable. If your front tires have more grip under some
conditions, you could easily have a situation where the rear end
breaks loose before the front end and the end-swapping problem emerges
at the worst possible moment, i.e. emergency braking.

To me, one of the big benefits of using winter tires is that it allows
me to use summer tires in the summer. You should now have two sets of
rims, why don't you replace the all-season tires on the original rims
with something optimized for summer use.

One reason the manufacture suggests 4 tires is the way 'winter
rubber' tires are constructed. As it has been explained to me,
snow tires have a deep lug type tread to increase traction and
rubber that remains more pliable in cold weather than regular AS
tires. Snow tires are best if one drive primarily on unplowed
snow. On the other hand if one drives mostly on plowed, icy
roads, then winter rubber tires are better. Winter rubber tires,
like the Blizzak, use soft rubber similar to a motorcycle tire on
the top 3/16" to 1/4" of the tread depth for increased traction
in colder weather and a more aggressive tread than regular tires
to do the job. The softer rubber wears off
in about 10 thousand miles or so. After that they are much like
a regular A/S tire and can be left on the vehicle. By using the
dual rubber compounds, rather than all soft rubber, the tire has
a life span more acceptable to the customer..


mike hunt



Forest wrote:
>
> Just wondering here; I recently bought 4 Bridgestone Blizzak tires mounted.
> I'm aware of the reason for needing all 4 traction wise as opposed to just
> front, (swapping ends and all.) What I was thinking was in order to save
> some tread wear, is it ok to remove the front Blizzaks with the all year
> tire and leave the rear on since the rear is being pulled (front wheel
> drive) I don't see a risk of swapping ends. I'm thinking of this for between
> snow falls. Am I nuts or what?
>
> Thanks...

I know all that. What I wanted to know is if there is any one sees a
problem with radials on the front and blizzaks on the rear for short
periods? I'm trying to save tread wear. I can't see a problem as the rear
just roll along on acceleration and justs drag on deceleration.

<BrickMayson@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:3FC0FF77.B0565F13@mailcity.com...
> One reason the manufacture suggests 4 tires is the way 'winter
> rubber' tires are constructed. As it has been explained to me,
> snow tires have a deep lug type tread to increase traction and
> rubber that remains more pliable in cold weather than regular AS
> tires. Snow tires are best if one drive primarily on unplowed
> snow. On the other hand if one drives mostly on plowed, icy
> roads, then winter rubber tires are better. Winter rubber tires,
> like the Blizzak, use soft rubber similar to a motorcycle tire on
> the top 3/16" to 1/4" of the tread depth for increased traction
> in colder weather and a more aggressive tread than regular tires
> to do the job. The softer rubber wears off
> in about 10 thousand miles or so. After that they are much like
> a regular A/S tire and can be left on the vehicle. By using the
> dual rubber compounds, rather than all soft rubber, the tire has
> a life span more acceptable to the customer..
>
>
> mike hunt
>
>
>
> Forest wrote:
> >
> > Just wondering here; I recently bought 4 Bridgestone Blizzak tires
mounted.
> > I'm aware of the reason for needing all 4 traction wise as opposed to
just
> > front, (swapping ends and all.) What I was thinking was in order to save
> > some tread wear, is it ok to remove the front Blizzaks with the all year
> > tire and leave the rear on since the rear is being pulled (front wheel
> > drive) I don't see a risk of swapping ends. I'm thinking of this for
between
> > snow falls. Am I nuts or what?
> >
> > Thanks...

"Forest" <forest@myhome.com> wrote in message
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> I know all that. What I wanted to know is if there is any one sees a
> problem with radials on the front and blizzaks on the rear for short
> periods? I'm trying to save tread wear. I can't see a problem as the
rear
> just roll along on acceleration and justs drag on deceleration.

And during cornering?

Ahh, that's why I posted; I overlooked that possible problem. Do you think
that would be much of a problem; we're talking dry blacktop here. Maybe I
should just put the Blizzaks on a day or two before the first snow/ice storm
and leave em till the spring. Just figuring a way to maximizes tread life;
perhaps I'm getting a tad anal about it.

"Stephen Bigelow" <sbigelowPOV@rogers.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Forest" <forest@myhome.com> wrote in message
> news:9i9wb.18821$Wy4.17565@newsread2.news.atl.eart hlink.net...
> > I know all that. What I wanted to know is if there is any one sees a
> > problem with radials on the front and blizzaks on the rear for short
> > periods? I'm trying to save tread wear. I can't see a problem as the
> rear
> > just roll along on acceleration and justs drag on deceleration.
>
> And during cornering?
>
>

Forest wrote:
>
> Ahh, that's why I posted; I overlooked that possible problem. Do you think
> that would be much of a problem; we're talking dry blacktop here. Maybe I
> should just put the Blizzaks on a day or two before the first snow/ice storm
> and leave em till the spring. Just figuring a way to maximizes tread life;
> perhaps I'm getting a tad anal about it.
>
> "Stephen Bigelow" <sbigelowPOV@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:1q9wb.7946$Fv8.1638@twister01.bloor.is.net.ca ble.rogers.com...
> >
> > "Forest" <forest@myhome.com> wrote in message
> > news:9i9wb.18821$Wy4.17565@newsread2.news.atl.eart hlink.net...
> > > I know all that. What I wanted to know is if there is any one sees a
> > > problem with radials on the front and blizzaks on the rear for short
> > > periods? I'm trying to save tread wear. I can't see a problem as the
> > rear
> > > just roll along on acceleration and justs drag on deceleration.
> >
> > And during cornering?
> >
> >

Go ahead and enjoy the grip of your newly acquired Blizzaks on all 4
corners. Don't be concerned about longevity. Your safety is paramount.
Next time, may I suggest a set of Nokian Hakkapeliitta Q (a.k.a. Hakka
Q) for winter tires? They outlast the Blizzaks by several fold. Every
bit as good on snow+ice, even better in the dry.

http://www.nokiantires.com/newsite/home.cfm

Will do. Thanks...

"VelociRacer" <VelociRacer@ThePodium.com> wrote in message
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> Forest wrote:
> >
> > Ahh, that's why I posted; I overlooked that possible problem. Do you
think
> > that would be much of a problem; we're talking dry blacktop here. Maybe
I
> > should just put the Blizzaks on a day or two before the first snow/ice
storm
> > and leave em till the spring. Just figuring a way to maximizes tread
life;
> > perhaps I'm getting a tad anal about it.
> >
> > "Stephen Bigelow" <sbigelowPOV@rogers.com> wrote in message
> > news:1q9wb.7946$Fv8.1638@twister01.bloor.is.net.ca ble.rogers.com...
> > >
> > > "Forest" <forest@myhome.com> wrote in message
> > > news:9i9wb.18821$Wy4.17565@newsread2.news.atl.eart hlink.net...
> > > > I know all that. What I wanted to know is if there is any one sees
a
> > > > problem with radials on the front and blizzaks on the rear for short
> > > > periods? I'm trying to save tread wear. I can't see a problem as
the
> > > rear
> > > > just roll along on acceleration and justs drag on deceleration.
> > >
> > > And during cornering?
> > >
> > >
>
> Go ahead and enjoy the grip of your newly acquired Blizzaks on all 4
> corners. Don't be concerned about longevity. Your safety is paramount.
> Next time, may I suggest a set of Nokian Hakkapeliitta Q (a.k.a. Hakka
> Q) for winter tires? They outlast the Blizzaks by several fold. Every
> bit as good on snow+ice, even better in the dry.
>
> http://www.nokiantires.com/newsite/home.cfm

<BrickMayson@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:3FC0FF77.B0565F13@mailcity.com...
> One reason the manufacture suggests 4 tires is the way 'winter
> rubber' tires are constructed.

Oh really idiot? Tell us what that is.

> As it has been explained to me,

By who?

> snow tires have a deep lug type tread to increase traction and
> rubber that remains more pliable in cold weather than regular AS
> tires.

No shit...your a damn genius!

> Snow tires are best if one drive primarily on unplowed
> snow.

OMG! My heads going to explode!

>On the other hand if one drives mostly on plowed, icy
> roads, then winter rubber tires are better. Winter rubber tires,
> like the Blizzak, use soft rubber similar to a motorcycle tire on
> the top 3/16" to 1/4" of the tread depth for increased traction
> in colder weather and a more aggressive tread than regular tires
> to do the job.

Man oh man oh man...what did all of us ignorant unintelligent Neanderthals
do before Mikeys great wisdom and advise?

> The softer rubber wears off
> in about 10 thousand miles or so.

Bullshit. More crap from your ass.

> After that they are much like
> a regular A/S tire and can be left on the vehicle. By using the
> dual rubber compounds, rather than all soft rubber, the tire has
> a life span more acceptable to the customer..

Are your eyes brown?
>
>
> mike hunt, your local village idiot.


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I have been driveling Mustang GT convertibles since '99 here
in the mountains of PA and NY, I'm on my third. I use Blizzak on
the rear only, no problem. I let them on year 'round then buy
another two in November, $450 a pair installed. I use
Vredasteins (S?,) on the rear only on my RWD Lincoln LS as well,
no problem. I believe they are made in Holland and they are much
better on ice than the Blizzak but they don't make a 245/45Z17,
so I have to buy the Jap tires for the GT. Blizzak ARE radials
tires.


mike hunt



Forest wrote:
>
> I know all that. What I wanted to know is if there is any one sees a
> problem with radials on the front and blizzaks on the rear for short
> periods? I'm trying to save tread wear. I can't see a problem as the rear
> just roll along on acceleration and justs drag on deceleration.
>
> <BrickMayson@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:3FC0FF77.B0565F13@mailcity.com...
> > One reason the manufacture suggests 4 tires is the way 'winter
> > rubber' tires are constructed. As it has been explained to me,
> > snow tires have a deep lug type tread to increase traction and
> > rubber that remains more pliable in cold weather than regular AS
> > tires. Snow tires are best if one drive primarily on unplowed
> > snow. On the other hand if one drives mostly on plowed, icy
> > roads, then winter rubber tires are better. Winter rubber tires,
> > like the Blizzak, use soft rubber similar to a motorcycle tire on
> > the top 3/16" to 1/4" of the tread depth for increased traction
> > in colder weather and a more aggressive tread than regular tires
> > to do the job. The softer rubber wears off
> > in about 10 thousand miles or so. After that they are much like
> > a regular A/S tire and can be left on the vehicle. By using the
> > dual rubber compounds, rather than all soft rubber, the tire has
> > a life span more acceptable to the customer..
> >
> >
> > mike hunt
> >
> >
> >
> > Forest wrote:
> > >
> > > Just wondering here; I recently bought 4 Bridgestone Blizzak tires
> mounted.
> > > I'm aware of the reason for needing all 4 traction wise as opposed to
> just
> > > front, (swapping ends and all.) What I was thinking was in order to save
> > > some tread wear, is it ok to remove the front Blizzaks with the all year
> > > tire and leave the rear on since the rear is being pulled (front wheel
> > > drive) I don't see a risk of swapping ends. I'm thinking of this for
> between
> > > snow falls. Am I nuts or what?
> > >
> > > Thanks...