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Old 17 Nov 2003, 12:32 pm
Agent Smith
 
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Default New car mileage

Guys,


What's a reasonable mileage on a Honda when you buy it brand new from
a dealer? How much "handling" does a car get after it comes off the
belt in, say, Canada and gets to a dealer here, in the US? Does the
manufacturer test every car on a track?

I have to admit I know nothing at this point about this whole
procedure. Please, enlighten me.

Also, how do you know if the dealer used a car as a "demo"?
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Old 17 Nov 2003, 01:41 pm
Duran
 
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Default Re: New car mileage

> What's a reasonable mileage on a Honda when you buy it brand new from
> a dealer?


10 miles max on the car is not asking too much.

> I have to admit I know nothing at this point about this whole
> procedure. Please, enlighten me.


> Also, how do you know if the dealer used a car as a "demo"?


The mileage on the car will indicate this. Demo's usually have hundreds or,
more commonly, thousands of miles on them.

Personally, I would never buy a "new" car with over 15 or 20 miles on it
unless they had to have the car driven from another dealership, but I
haven't had to have a dealership do this yet. My accord had 11 miles on it
when I bought it. I broke my own 10 mile rule, but no other dealer had the
one I wanted. If you happen to like one that has maybe 50 or 100 miles on
it from test drives, then I would seriously consider haggling over the price
with the knowledge that there are plenty of similar new honda's without as
many miles on them


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Old 17 Nov 2003, 01:42 pm
-- SilverSting--
 
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Default Re: New car mileage

Your new car will never make it out onto a track. The mileage can vary
quite a bit and different models are manufactured in differenet places.

Accord --> USA
Civic --> Canada, and USA.

And so forth. Then when your car makes it to the dealer they test drive
the cars are iron out any bugs and rattling. As for an exact number I can't
tell you, but anything under a 100 km sounds reasonable.

"Agent Smith" <asmith@matrix.com> wrote in message
news:6s0irv8o8ngtsc53p4ug10cff874hg284g@4ax.com...
> Guys,
>
>
> What's a reasonable mileage on a Honda when you buy it brand new from
> a dealer? How much "handling" does a car get after it comes off the
> belt in, say, Canada and gets to a dealer here, in the US? Does the
> manufacturer test every car on a track?
>
> I have to admit I know nothing at this point about this whole
> procedure. Please, enlighten me.
>
> Also, how do you know if the dealer used a car as a "demo"?



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Old 17 Nov 2003, 04:49 pm
MikeHunt2@mailcity.com
 
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Default Re: New car mileage

A new car generally will have only a few miles on the odometer
accumulated during shipping. On occasion cars are selected to be
factory test driven on the roadway, not on a track. A sticker
showing the accumulated mileage is generally attached on the
vehicle in that case. I've never seen any sticker with more than
50 miles during a test. Test drives by customers is generally
the reason for the mileage added at a dealership. Most dealers
try to jeep that kind of mileage to less than 50/60 miles.
Mileage sometimes is added when new cars are swapped among
dealers, as well. If a dealer needs to get the car you want from
an other dealership, expect to see the mileage between the
dealerships. It is more costly to ship between dealers by truck
and in that case you will probably be charged more for the
vehicle. When I was a Sales Manager we considered anything over
100 up to 600 miles as as 'demo' mileage and reduced the price
accordingly to a customer, compared to the price of an identical
car with less than 100.




Agent Smith wrote:
>
> Guys,
>
> What's a reasonable mileage on a Honda when you buy it brand new from
> a dealer? How much "handling" does a car get after it comes off the
> belt in, say, Canada and gets to a dealer here, in the US? Does the
> manufacturer test every car on a track?
>
> I have to admit I know nothing at this point about this whole
> procedure. Please, enlighten me.
>
> Also, how do you know if the dealer used a car as a "demo"?


mike hunt
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Old 17 Nov 2003, 05:01 pm
DrPimpDaddi
 
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Default Re: New car mileage

>What's a reasonable mileage on a Honda when you buy it brand new from
>a dealer? How much "handling" does a car get after it comes off the
>belt in, say, Canada and gets to a dealer here, in the US? Does the
>manufacturer test every car on a track?


The lowest mileage I've had was 6 miles. The highest was 25. Personally, I
wouldn't buy a car with over 100 miles, unless offered at steep discount.


>I have to admit I know nothing at this point about this whole
>procedure. Please, enlighten me.
>
>Also, how do you know if the dealer used a car as a "demo"?
>


I once was offered a demo with 75,000 miles. Supposedly, the daughter of the
dealership owner drove it. I believe any car that hasn't been registered can be
called one.




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Old 17 Nov 2003, 06:38 pm
Oak
 
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Default Re: New car mileage

I had the same question. I got a 03 Honda Accord with 88 miles on it
already. The manager went $420 below invoice to sell it. Do you
think 88 miles is acceptable, even though it the last of the 03's in
my area? I'm wondering if it makes a difference if the car has a J
VIN (assembled in Japan)??

"-- SilverSting--" <reply@goup.thx> wrote in message news:<bpb4rh$90d$1@dns3.cae.ca>...
> Your new car will never make it out onto a track. The mileage can vary
> quite a bit and different models are manufactured in differenet places.
>
> Accord --> USA
> Civic --> Canada, and USA.
>
> And so forth. Then when your car makes it to the dealer they test drive
> the cars are iron out any bugs and rattling. As for an exact number I can't
> tell you, but anything under a 100 km sounds reasonable.
>
> "Agent Smith" <asmith@matrix.com> wrote in message
> news:6s0irv8o8ngtsc53p4ug10cff874hg284g@4ax.com...
> > Guys,
> >
> >
> > What's a reasonable mileage on a Honda when you buy it brand new from
> > a dealer? How much "handling" does a car get after it comes off the
> > belt in, say, Canada and gets to a dealer here, in the US? Does the
> > manufacturer test every car on a track?
> >
> > I have to admit I know nothing at this point about this whole
> > procedure. Please, enlighten me.
> >
> > Also, how do you know if the dealer used a car as a "demo"?

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Old 17 Nov 2003, 11:19 pm
lcopps
 
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Yup, "J" vintage is made in Japan. What color is it by the way. My
theory is Gold, Red, and Green are less appealing to Japanese consumers,
so look for them to be made in Ohio. White is a very popular color in
Japan (I lived there for 2 years). Good possibility it was made in Japan.

Oak wrote:
> I had the same question. I got a 03 Honda Accord with 88 miles on it
> already. The manager went $420 below invoice to sell it. Do you
> think 88 miles is acceptable, even though it the last of the 03's in
> my area? I'm wondering if it makes a difference if the car has a J
> VIN (assembled in Japan)??
>
> "-- SilverSting--" <reply@goup.thx> wrote in message news:<bpb4rh$90d$1@dns3.cae.ca>...
>
>>Your new car will never make it out onto a track. The mileage can vary
>>quite a bit and different models are manufactured in differenet places.
>>
>>Accord --> USA
>>Civic --> Canada, and USA.
>>
>>And so forth. Then when your car makes it to the dealer they test drive
>>the cars are iron out any bugs and rattling. As for an exact number I can't
>>tell you, but anything under a 100 km sounds reasonable.
>>
>>"Agent Smith" <asmith@matrix.com> wrote in message
>>news:6s0irv8o8ngtsc53p4ug10cff874hg284g@4ax.com. ..
>>
>>>Guys,
>>>
>>>
>>>What's a reasonable mileage on a Honda when you buy it brand new from
>>>a dealer? How much "handling" does a car get after it comes off the
>>>belt in, say, Canada and gets to a dealer here, in the US? Does the
>>>manufacturer test every car on a track?
>>>
>>>I have to admit I know nothing at this point about this whole
>>>procedure. Please, enlighten me.
>>>
>>>Also, how do you know if the dealer used a car as a "demo"?


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Old 17 Nov 2003, 11:22 pm
lcopps
 
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Default Re: New car mileage

Also, A dealer is more likely to transfer a higher mileage car and keep
the lower milage ones on lot.

MikeHunt2@mailcity.com wrote:

> A new car generally will have only a few miles on the odometer
> accumulated during shipping. On occasion cars are selected to be
> factory test driven on the roadway, not on a track. A sticker
> showing the accumulated mileage is generally attached on the
> vehicle in that case. I've never seen any sticker with more than
> 50 miles during a test. Test drives by customers is generally
> the reason for the mileage added at a dealership. Most dealers
> try to jeep that kind of mileage to less than 50/60 miles.
> Mileage sometimes is added when new cars are swapped among
> dealers, as well. If a dealer needs to get the car you want from
> an other dealership, expect to see the mileage between the
> dealerships. It is more costly to ship between dealers by truck
> and in that case you will probably be charged more for the
> vehicle. When I was a Sales Manager we considered anything over
> 100 up to 600 miles as as 'demo' mileage and reduced the price
> accordingly to a customer, compared to the price of an identical
> car with less than 100.
>
>
>
>
> Agent Smith wrote:
>
>>Guys,
>>
>>What's a reasonable mileage on a Honda when you buy it brand new from
>>a dealer? How much "handling" does a car get after it comes off the
>>belt in, say, Canada and gets to a dealer here, in the US? Does the
>>manufacturer test every car on a track?
>>
>>I have to admit I know nothing at this point about this whole
>>procedure. Please, enlighten me.
>>
>>Also, how do you know if the dealer used a car as a "demo"?

>
>
> mike hunt


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Old 18 Nov 2003, 07:59 am
NetSock
 
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<MikeHunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:3FB9406C.8020DEC6@mailcity.com...
> A new car generally will have only a few miles on the odometer
> accumulated during shipping.


Not true. This is totally subjective. Pulling shit from his ass again.

>On occasion cars are selected to be
> factory test driven on the roadway, not on a track.


Again, not true. care to share your source Mikey?

I thought not...

> A sticker
> showing the accumulated mileage is generally attached on the
> vehicle in that case.


And generally, Mikey fabricates stories here.

Don't listen to this idiot, he is a proven liar.

> I've never seen any sticker with more than
> 50 miles during a test.


You mean, you have never seen a sticker.

> Test drives by customers is generally
> the reason for the mileage added at a dealership.


Really? You mean the odometer works during test drives!?

Wow! I never knew that...thanks Mikey!

> Most dealers
> try to jeep that kind of mileage to less than 50/60 miles.


How do you know?

> Mileage sometimes is added when new cars are swapped among
> dealers, as well. If a dealer needs to get the car you want from
> an other dealership, expect to see the mileage between the
> dealerships.


Really? Wow! You sure are smart!

> It is more costly to ship between dealers by truck


Again...I am floored by your seemingly infinite wisdom...

> and in that case you will probably be charged more for the
> vehicle. When I was a Sales Manager we considered anything over
> 100 up to 600 miles as as 'demo' mileage and reduced the price
> accordingly to a customer, compared to the price of an identical
> car with less than 100.


The only "sales manager" this clown was, was at the local Toys R Us store...

Your nothing but a liar, and a troll...and it has been proven.

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'94 Accord

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Old 18 Nov 2003, 08:50 am
Gus
 
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Default Re: New car mileage

Agent Smith wrote:

> Guys,
>
>
> What's a reasonable mileage on a Honda when you buy it brand new from
> a dealer? How much "handling" does a car get after it comes off the
> belt in, say, Canada and gets to a dealer here, in the US? Does the
> manufacturer test every car on a track?


The mileage statement for my '03 Accord EX said 19 miles, but the
odometer read less than that at delivery. I doubt very much they're
tested on a track at all.

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