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I am very disappointed with Honda. I don't believe Honda put a very cheap
tires on Honda CRV-EX. The tread wear is 160, traction rating B and
temperature rating B. The cheap Toyota Corolla CE has much better tires:
tread wear 460, traction rating A and temperature rating B.
I also found out that the power lock button is only at driver side !!!

Hai Pham

and you need a power lock button on the passenger side because.....?



"Hai Pham" <haipham@netcarrier.com> wrote in message
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> I am very disappointed with Honda. I don't believe Honda put a very cheap
> tires on Honda CRV-EX. The tread wear is 160, traction rating B and
> temperature rating B. The cheap Toyota Corolla CE has much better tires:
> tread wear 460, traction rating A and temperature rating B.
> I also found out that the power lock button is only at driver side !!!
>
> Hai Pham
>
>

"Hai Pham" <haipham@netcarrier.com> wrote in message
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> I am very disappointed with Honda. I don't believe Honda put a very cheap
> tires on Honda CRV-EX. The tread wear is 160, traction rating B and
> temperature rating B. The cheap Toyota Corolla CE has much better tires:
> tread wear 460, traction rating A and temperature rating B.

First of all, as has been pointed out here and in many other places, most
(if not all) OEM tires aren't all that great.

Second, having a lower treadwear index is not necessarily bad. It usually
means the tire is more sticky and has more grip. That 460 tire on the
Corolla must be spinning like mad when you hit the gas pedal. So what that
it'll last longer if it ain't got no grip? Therefore, it really depends on
how you look at it.

Finally, the traction rating refers to wet traction. It does not tell you
anything about resistance to aquaplaning (driving through standing water)
and it does not tell you anything about dry traction.

Personally, I never buy a new car based on what tires it comes with because
9 out of 10 times they're crappy anyway and the first thing I do is purchase
a set of tires of my own choosing.

Cheers,

Pete

I could appreciate what you're trying to say, but in this case the original
poster is correct. When the tires have a treadwear of 160 AND traction and
temperature of B and B. They are just bad.

Fortunately, tires are the easiest part of the car to upgrade.


"Pete" wrote:

> Second, having a lower treadwear index is not necessarily bad. It usually
> means the tire is more sticky and has more grip. That 460 tire on the
> Corolla must be spinning like mad when you hit the gas pedal. So what
that
> it'll last longer if it ain't got no grip? Therefore, it really depends
on
> how you look at it.
>
> Finally, the traction rating refers to wet traction. It does not tell you
> anything about resistance to aquaplaning (driving through standing water)
> and it does not tell you anything about dry traction.
>
> Personally, I never buy a new car based on what tires it comes with
because
> 9 out of 10 times they're crappy anyway and the first thing I do is
purchase
> a set of tires of my own choosing.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Pete
>
>
>

Pete,

I do not agree with you some cars have very good tires and if the traction
rating is A I think it is OK but lower tread wear and B rating for traction
compare with 460 tread wear with A rating for traction.
"Pete" <escape2music@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Hai Pham" <haipham@netcarrier.com> wrote in message
> news:nyN9b.1521$YS3.139612204@news.netcarrier.net. ..
> > I am very disappointed with Honda. I don't believe Honda put a very
cheap
> > tires on Honda CRV-EX. The tread wear is 160, traction rating B and
> > temperature rating B. The cheap Toyota Corolla CE has much better tires:
> > tread wear 460, traction rating A and temperature rating B.
>
> First of all, as has been pointed out here and in many other places, most
> (if not all) OEM tires aren't all that great.
>
> Second, having a lower treadwear index is not necessarily bad. It usually
> means the tire is more sticky and has more grip. That 460 tire on the
> Corolla must be spinning like mad when you hit the gas pedal. So what
that
> it'll last longer if it ain't got no grip? Therefore, it really depends
on
> how you look at it.
>
> Finally, the traction rating refers to wet traction. It does not tell you
> anything about resistance to aquaplaning (driving through standing water)
> and it does not tell you anything about dry traction.
>
> Personally, I never buy a new car based on what tires it comes with
because
> 9 out of 10 times they're crappy anyway and the first thing I do is
purchase
> a set of tires of my own choosing.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Pete
>
>
>

redeyedevil,

I agree. Can you upgrade or you have to buy new one. I pay 8K more for Honda
than Corolla I expect the tires should be decent.
"redeyedevil" <redeyedevilREMOVE@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I could appreciate what you're trying to say, but in this case the
original
> poster is correct. When the tires have a treadwear of 160 AND traction
and
> temperature of B and B. They are just bad.
>
> Fortunately, tires are the easiest part of the car to upgrade.
>
>
> "Pete" wrote:
>
> > Second, having a lower treadwear index is not necessarily bad. It
usually
> > means the tire is more sticky and has more grip. That 460 tire on the
> > Corolla must be spinning like mad when you hit the gas pedal. So what
> that
> > it'll last longer if it ain't got no grip? Therefore, it really depends
> on
> > how you look at it.
> >
> > Finally, the traction rating refers to wet traction. It does not tell
you
> > anything about resistance to aquaplaning (driving through standing
water)
> > and it does not tell you anything about dry traction.
> >
> > Personally, I never buy a new car based on what tires it comes with
> because
> > 9 out of 10 times they're crappy anyway and the first thing I do is
> purchase
> > a set of tires of my own choosing.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Pete
> >
> >
> >
>
>

"Hai Pham" <haipham@netcarrier.com> wrote in message
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> Pete,
>
> I do not agree with you some cars have very good tires and if the traction
> rating is A I think it is OK but lower tread wear and B rating for
traction
> compare with 460 tread wear with A rating for traction.

The OEM Michelins on the Accord are A rated for both traction and temp and
something around 400 treadwear index, and so what? They're crap. It just
proves my point about OEM tires.

Cheers,

Pete

On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 19:58:48 +0200, "Pete" <escape2music@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>The OEM Michelins on the Accord are A rated for both traction and temp and
>something around 400 treadwear index, and so what? They're crap. It just
>proves my point about OEM tires.
>
And what point was that?

"TL" <tlehman@visi.com> wrote in message
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> And what point was that?

That most OEM tires are crap, so it's no use complaining about the stock
tires on the CRV and saying that tires on a Corolla would have been much
better.

Cheers,

Pete

Try http://www.gocrvclub.org/ you will find a lot of comments about that
"Hai Pham" <haipham@netcarrier.com> wrote in message
news:nyN9b.1521$YS3.139612204@news.netcarrier.net. ..
> I am very disappointed with Honda. I don't believe Honda put a very cheap
> tires on Honda CRV-EX. The tread wear is 160, traction rating B and
> temperature rating B. The cheap Toyota Corolla CE has much better tires:
> tread wear 460, traction rating A and temperature rating B.
> I also found out that the power lock button is only at driver side !!!
>
> Hai Pham
>
>