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Anyone change one of these. How do you get to it. My manual is less
than clear about how to get to it to change? Do you have to get to it
from the underside in order to see the bolts?

Is it ususally just the top (pulse) module that goes bad.? Can it be
removed/replaced without taking the gear driven module off the
transmission?

WHen mine went bad, it was only the top module that needed replacing.
fairly easy, the guy changed it in the parking lot
"Frank Boettcher" <fboettcher@ebicom.net> wrote in message
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> Anyone change one of these. How do you get to it. My manual is less
> than clear about how to get to it to change? Do you have to get to it
> from the underside in order to see the bolts?
>
> Is it ususally just the top (pulse) module that goes bad.? Can it be
> removed/replaced without taking the gear driven module off the
> transmission?

> Anyone change one of these. How do you get to it.

Get to it from the passenger side.

> My manual is less
> than clear about how to get to it to change? Do you have to get to it
> from the underside in order to see the bolts?

At the top of the transmission use a 10mm socket. If you use a
phillips screw driver you will remove the top pulse module.

> Is it ususally just the top (pulse) module that goes bad.?

Both goes bad. The spring loaded rod wears the lower part the the
unit. The pulse pickup and it's bottom housing is sold as one unit.

> Can it be
> removed/replaced without taking the gear driven module off the
> transmission?

As stated, the VSS is sold as one unit. U should remove both to
inspect and refurbish.

> Both goes bad. The spring loaded rod wears the lower part the the
> unit. The pulse pickup and it's bottom housing is sold as one unit.
>

But you almost NEVER need the powersteering speed sensor... the gear driven
part in the transmission.

On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 07:36:21 -0500, "Jafir Elkurd"
<jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote:

>> Both goes bad. The spring loaded rod wears the lower part the the
>> unit. The pulse pickup and it's bottom housing is sold as one unit.
>>
>
>But you almost NEVER need the powersteering speed sensor... the gear driven
>part in the transmission.
>

Thanks to all who answered and let me see if I've gotten this right

You can remove the complete pulse module (both the mechanical part and
the electronic) by removing the two 10mm bolts on the flange of the
die cast part. You get to it from the top passenger side under the
hood and I'm assuming a long extension and universal knuckle would be
required. Looks like removing the air intake tube and associated
vaccum hoses is either helpful or necessary

The lower part, that is gear driven from the transmission and has the
two hydraulic hoses attached to it as part of the variable power
steering regulation system does not have to be removed to replace the
upper portion and is likely to be OK. I have a check engine 17 code
and no speedometer function and it is most likely the upper module
that is bad.

Thanks for any confirmation on my understanding of the situation.

On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 09:30:27 -0700, Frank Boettcher <fboettcher@ebicom.net>
wrote:

>On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 07:36:21 -0500, "Jafir Elkurd"
><jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote:
>
>>> Both goes bad. The spring loaded rod wears the lower part the the
>>> unit. The pulse pickup and it's bottom housing is sold as one unit.
>>>
>>
>>But you almost NEVER need the powersteering speed sensor... the gear driven
>>part in the transmission.
>>
>
>Thanks to all who answered and let me see if I've gotten this right
>
>You can remove the complete pulse module (both the mechanical part and
>the electronic) by removing the two 10mm bolts on the flange of the
>die cast part. You get to it from the top passenger side under the
>hood and I'm assuming a long extension and universal knuckle would be
>required. Looks like removing the air intake tube and associated
>vaccum hoses is either helpful or necessary
>
>The lower part, that is gear driven from the transmission and has the
>two hydraulic hoses attached to it as part of the variable power
>steering regulation system does not have to be removed to replace the
>upper portion and is likely to be OK. I have a check engine 17 code
>and no speedometer function and it is most likely the upper module
>that is bad.
>
>Thanks for any confirmation on my understanding of the situation.

Yes you have it right. Unless the lower gear driven part is obviously
damaged it's OK and you just change the upper electrical pulse unit part.
When you take it out though be careful - there's a small pin called the
"drive link" between the top of the driven shaft and the pulse unit... and
which can fall out. As I understand it, it may stay in the top of the shaft
or it may come out with the pulse unit - it's very small so be careful you
don't lose it.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

Here's a good site!

http://www.cybertrails.com/~bestinth...tLocation.html




George Macdonald <fammacd=!SPAM^nothanks@tellurian.com> wrote in message
news:3f6a2a59.32185699@news.tellurian.com...
> On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 09:30:27 -0700, Frank Boettcher
<fboettcher@ebicom.net>
> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 07:36:21 -0500, "Jafir Elkurd"
> ><jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote:
> >
> >>> Both goes bad. The spring loaded rod wears the lower part the the
> >>> unit. The pulse pickup and it's bottom housing is sold as one unit.
> >>>
> >>
> >>But you almost NEVER need the powersteering speed sensor... the gear
driven
> >>part in the transmission.
> >>
> >
> >Thanks to all who answered and let me see if I've gotten this right
> >
> >You can remove the complete pulse module (both the mechanical part and
> >the electronic) by removing the two 10mm bolts on the flange of the
> >die cast part. You get to it from the top passenger side under the
> >hood and I'm assuming a long extension and universal knuckle would be
> >required. Looks like removing the air intake tube and associated
> >vaccum hoses is either helpful or necessary
> >
> >The lower part, that is gear driven from the transmission and has the
> >two hydraulic hoses attached to it as part of the variable power
> >steering regulation system does not have to be removed to replace the
> >upper portion and is likely to be OK. I have a check engine 17 code
> >and no speedometer function and it is most likely the upper module
> >that is bad.
> >
> >Thanks for any confirmation on my understanding of the situation.
>
> Yes you have it right. Unless the lower gear driven part is obviously
> damaged it's OK and you just change the upper electrical pulse unit part.
> When you take it out though be careful - there's a small pin called the
> "drive link" between the top of the driven shaft and the pulse unit... and
> which can fall out. As I understand it, it may stay in the top of the
shaft
> or it may come out with the pulse unit - it's very small so be careful you
> don't lose it.
>
> Rgds, George Macdonald
>
> "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who,
me??

> > Both goes bad. The spring loaded rod wears the lower part the the
> > unit. The pulse pickup and it's bottom housing is sold as one unit.
>
> But you almost NEVER need the powersteering speed sensor... the gear driven
> part in the transmission.

Ooops. Thank Jafir. The description I made was inside the VSS unit.
I’d misread his post.

Changed the VSS this weekend and the job went off without a hitch due
to the advice of all posters. Many thanks.