Honda Car Forum

I just had my first oil change at the dealer. I had looked at the factory
filter before the work was done. The new filter is blue like the old one,
but the diameter looks much smaller...this sound right?

Anyone have the part # it should be?

Doesn't matter, as long as it fits. Cars can run without oil filters!



U.S.A. "Go West Young Men..."

Mexico "El Norte Hombre..."

drpimpdadi@cs.comBush4Oil (DrPimpDadi) wrote in message news:<20030830005941.20786.00000220@mb-m21.news.cs.com>...
> Doesn't matter, as long as it fits. Cars can run without oil filters!
>
>
>
> U.S.A. "Go West Young Men..."
>
> Mexico "El Norte Hombre..."

o3 crv should have the small one. the 2 are interchangeable though.
honda just announced that only the small one will be used from here on
out, with the exception of the s2000.
doesn't really matter they all bypass above about 3000 rpm. they
can't handle the flow.
Chip

"Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message
news:5ddcea74.0308301700.7f31cf8d@posting.google.c om...

> doesn't really matter they all bypass above about 3000 rpm. they
> can't handle the flow.

How did you determine the bypass rpm?

"Stephen Bigelow" <sbigelowPOV@rogers.com> wrote in message news:<6Rb4b.47122$kH3.22398@news02.bloor.is.net.ca ble.rogers.com>...
> "Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message
> news:5ddcea74.0308301700.7f31cf8d@posting.google.c om...
>
> > doesn't really matter they all bypass above about 3000 rpm. they
> > can't handle the flow.
>
> How did you determine the bypass rpm?

a lubrication seminar years ago. but think about it. you think that
little piss ant filter can flow 4.5 quarts of oil through the filter
medium every 1/2 sec.??
Chip

"Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message
news:5ddcea74.0308311407.765e13c2@posting.google.c om...
> "Stephen Bigelow" <sbigelowPOV@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:<6Rb4b.47122$kH3.22398@news02.bloor.is.net.ca ble.rogers.com>...
> > "Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message
> > news:5ddcea74.0308301700.7f31cf8d@posting.google.c om...
> >
> > > doesn't really matter they all bypass above about 3000 rpm. they
> > > can't handle the flow.
> >
> > How did you determine the bypass rpm?
>
> a lubrication seminar years ago.

Specifically?

but think about it. you think that
> little piss ant filter can flow 4.5 quarts of oil through the filter
> medium every 1/2 sec.??

Which pump and engine rpm?

chip@chipanddebby.com (Chip Stein) wrote in
news:5ddcea74.0308311407.765e13c2@posting.google.c om:

> "Stephen Bigelow" <sbigelowPOV@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:<6Rb4b.47122$kH3.22398@news02.bloor.is.net.ca ble.rogers.com>...
>> "Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message
>> news:5ddcea74.0308301700.7f31cf8d@posting.google.c om...
>>
>> > doesn't really matter they all bypass above about 3000 rpm.
>> > they
>> > can't handle the flow.
>>
>> How did you determine the bypass rpm?
>
> a lubrication seminar years ago. but think about it. you think that
> little piss ant filter can flow 4.5 quarts of oil through the filter
> medium every 1/2 sec.??
> Chip
>

Dude, I don't know shit about oil flow through this engine, but the oil
pump doesn't move 2 gallons+ per second.

Nobody wrote:
>
> I just had my first oil change at the dealer. I had looked at the factory
> filter before the work was done. The new filter is blue like the old one,
> but the diameter looks much smaller...this sound right?
>

Yes, according to a dealer parts tech I spoke with recently, Honda has
superseded the old filters with the newer smaller ones. The mounting flange is
the same. However, this parts tech was uncertain if the filter media had
changed or just the size of the can. It's likely that both have changed. One
thing of interest that he did mention to me was that the supplier for the new
smaller filters was Fram (made in Canada) and that the Filtech filters (made in
USA) will not be available in the smaller size. He also seemed doubtful that
the older style Filtech filters would continue to be available for much longer.

Eric

Eric <say.no@spam.now> wrote in message news:<3F53E0C2.2B4D497C@spam.now>...
> Nobody wrote:
One
> thing of interest that he did mention to me was that the supplier for the new
> smaller filters was Fram (made in Canada) and that the Filtech filters (made in
> USA) will not be available in the smaller size. He also seemed doubtful that
> the older style Filtech filters would continue to be available for much longer.


I've suspected this for some time. The much superior filter will be
phased out in favor of the cardboard specials.

Thanks, but I'd use a Hastings LF-402 instead.

--- Bror Jace

If you want ..
to protect your vehicle from the wear, friction, noise and costly engine
problems.
to make your engine oil cleaner.
to reduce engine wear and friction.
to extend your engine and transmission life.

then, check this out, and put it on your oil filter.
http://www.turbo-mag.ca


"Bror Jace" <brorjace@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:d1373663.0309021836.6fe0fa44@posting.google.c om...
> Eric <say.no@spam.now> wrote in message
news:<3F53E0C2.2B4D497C@spam.now>...
> > Nobody wrote:
> One
> > thing of interest that he did mention to me was that the supplier for
the new
> > smaller filters was Fram (made in Canada) and that the Filtech filters
(made in
> > USA) will not be available in the smaller size. He also seemed doubtful
that
> > the older style Filtech filters would continue to be available for much
longer.
>
>
> I've suspected this for some time. The much superior filter will be
> phased out in favor of the cardboard specials.
>
> Thanks, but I'd use a Hastings LF-402 instead.
>
> --- Bror Jace