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In article <Xns93DC979CE61DANcOhSrPiAsMchrisgarc@68.12.19.6 >,
Chris Garcia <NcOhSrPiAsM@chrisgarcia.com> wrote:

>has anyone with a 96 (or of the same generation) civic coupe ever tried
>building a box for a 10" sub that would fit inside the cabin? i was
>thinking on the floor, back seat, in the middle (built around the hump in
>the middle) ..only problem i'm seeing though is the seats wouldn't be able
>to recline fully..
>
>i'd like to keep the back seat available for passengers.. but i'd like my
>sub in the cabin so it doesn't have to try so hard to punch (like it does
>when in the trunk)

Have you tried a good pair of 6x9 speakers yet? There also appears to
be mounting holes for 6.5 inch rear speakers too, but no grille.

See if you can mount a sub behind the driver's side rear folding seat.
Fold the seat down for brain mulching bass, fold it up to seat another
passenger or conceal your gear. Maybe you could even get the ports of a
home-made bandpass sub firing between the folding seats.

The front door panels can be modified to take 6.5 inch free air subs.
Cut out the old mount, drill hundreds of 1/32 inch holes in the plastic,
reinforce the area with fiberglass, machine to the correct size, cut the
hole in the door chassis open wider, and mount a new splash guard behind
the hole. Surface mount a 3 inch speaker nearby for midrange and treble.

Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtri@sonic.net> decided to join the conversation on
19 Aug 2003 with message
news:mcmurtri-43C1D5.20260219082003@typhoon.sonic.net:

> The front door panels can be modified to take 6.5 inch free air subs.
> Cut out the old mount, drill hundreds of 1/32 inch holes in the
> plastic, reinforce the area with fiberglass, machine to the correct
> size, cut the hole in the door chassis open wider, and mount a new
> splash guard behind the hole. Surface mount a 3 inch speaker nearby
> for midrange and treble.
>

that's a bit much work for me ... i talked to a friend of mine (the one
that helped me build the custom box in my trunk) ... tells me what i need
is a bigger amp .. that's the easiest solution .. the cheapest is
folding the seat down .. i should have somethign that is 150-200w rms..
not 200w peak..

the stock speakers seem to be keeping up... and replacing the rear
speakers (from what i've read) are HELL to replace.. basically the entire
rear interior (seat bottom, seat backs, trim panels..) has to be
removed.. big headache...

why do car companies make it so hard to simply change speakers? i had a
'90 prelude .. it had speaker grills in the front door that LOOKED
removable.. but you had to take off the ENTIRE door panel to replace the
speaker..



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In article <Xns93DCE7D28878ANcOhSrPiAsMchrisgarc@68.12.19.6 >,
Chris Garcia <NcOhSrPiAsM@chrisgarcia.com> wrote:

>Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtri@sonic.net> decided to join the conversation on
>19 Aug 2003 with message
>news:mcmurtri-43C1D5.20260219082003@typhoon.sonic.net:
>
>> The front door panels can be modified to take 6.5 inch free air subs.
>> Cut out the old mount, drill hundreds of 1/32 inch holes in the
>> plastic, reinforce the area with fiberglass, machine to the correct
>> size, cut the hole in the door chassis open wider, and mount a new
>> splash guard behind the hole. Surface mount a 3 inch speaker nearby
>> for midrange and treble.
>>
>
>that's a bit much work for me ... i talked to a friend of mine (the one
>that helped me build the custom box in my trunk) ... tells me what i need
>is a bigger amp .. that's the easiest solution .. the cheapest is
>folding the seat down .. i should have somethign that is 150-200w rms..
>not 200w peak..

Yeah, the door panel modification suggestion is kind of a joke. I did
it when I had way too much spare time.


>the stock speakers seem to be keeping up... and replacing the rear
>speakers (from what i've read) are HELL to replace.. basically the entire
>rear interior (seat bottom, seat backs, trim panels..) has to be
>removed.. big headache...

Replacing the rear speakers and putting them on an amplifier will
provide the largest gain, by far. They are f'ing hell to replace! You
don't have to remove the seats if you're really strong. You can pull
the side trim inwards and lift the deck over them. Putting the deck
back in takes just as long with all of those clips that need to be
aligned. I swear, don't skimp on the rear speakers. Pre-test them too.
It will be years before you're willing to pull out the rear deck again.


I replaced the rear deck of my 88 Tercel with two upholstered wooden
panels. They were solid, allowed the mounting of powerful speakers, and
were easy to remove. Doing the same to my Civic is very tempting.

>why do car companies make it so hard to simply change speakers? i had a
>'90 prelude .. it had speaker grills in the front door that LOOKED
>removable.. but you had to take off the ENTIRE door panel to replace the
>speaker..

I'm sure the rear deck takes 5 seconds to install at the factory when
there are no windows or interior panels. Removing the Civic door panels
is actually easy, though. I've removed the door panels for things as
trivial as a rattling lock mechanism. It takes just a few minutes to do
and it's worth the quieter ride.

Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtri@sonic.net> decided to join the conversation on
20 Aug 2003 with message
news:mcmurtri-A7F36C.01104120082003@typhoon.sonic.net:

> In article <Xns93DCE7D28878ANcOhSrPiAsMchrisgarc@68.12.19.6 >,
> Chris Garcia <NcOhSrPiAsM@chrisgarcia.com> wrote:
>>
>>that's a bit much work for me ... i talked to a friend of mine (the
>>one that helped me build the custom box in my trunk) ... tells me what
>>i need is a bigger amp .. that's the easiest solution .. the
>>cheapest is folding the seat down .. i should have somethign that is
>>150-200w rms.. not 200w peak..
>
> Yeah, the door panel modification suggestion is kind of a joke. I did
> it when I had way too much spare time.
>
>
>>the stock speakers seem to be keeping up... and replacing the rear
>>speakers (from what i've read) are HELL to replace.. basically the
>>entire rear interior (seat bottom, seat backs, trim panels..) has to
>>be removed.. big headache...
>

> You don't have to remove the seats if you're really strong.

... so i have to remove the seats..

>>why do car companies make it so hard to simply change speakers? i had
>>a '90 prelude .. it had speaker grills in the front door that LOOKED
>>removable.. but you had to take off the ENTIRE door panel to replace
>>the speaker..
>
> I'm sure the rear deck takes 5 seconds to install at the factory when
> there are no windows or interior panels. Removing the Civic door
> panels is actually easy, though. I've removed the door panels for
> things as trivial as a rattling lock mechanism. It takes just a few
> minutes to do and it's worth the quieter ride.

I'd imagine the Civic would be easy compared to a Gen3 Prelude... In the
Gen3 Prelude, the seatbelts are built into the door.

my *overall* plan for speakers in my car... get a nice set of 3-way 6x9's
.... decent set of component mids in the door panel, and a nice set of
tweeters.. i have no idea how to get those tweeters out though.. i tried
prying the whole housing out.. it comes out, but won't release
completely..


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Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtri@sonic.net> decided to join the conversation on
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> Roll down the window. Pry out the plastic triangles behind the
> mirrors. Pull the top of the triangle towards the back of the car
> then pull it down.

hm... i needed to know that actually... my 'triangles' have tweeters that
i might replace one day..

being my first car with them, i never realized how useful they are until
i had them.. it really bring out the highs.. specially since the door
panel speakers are blocked by my leg.

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