Honda Car Forum

"John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> About one month ago I purchased a 2003 Accord V6 with navigation, which
> means with every factory installed option available. So far I have not
been
> impressed by the supposedly amazing level of quality Honda is reputed to
> provide.

Stephen Bigelow, George Macdonald, are you reading this? Not sure if you
can chalk it up to the "Most Reliable" thread we had here 2 days ago, but it
certainly speaks of quality of today's Hondas. The quality of my '00 Accord
EX-V6 was just as bad. Air leaks, water leaks, squeaks and sunroof rattles,
pulsating/dimming dashboard lights, unevenly aligned cabin trim pieces,
vibrating outside mirrors. Certainly not what I was expecting after hearing
about the great Honda "quality."

But as I mentioned before, all makers turn out a certain number of lemons -
quality control is not 100% perfect. I suppose I just had bad luck. If
only that car was fun to drive, I would have let those finish imperfections
slide. I guess I should have test-driven it more extensively. You live and
learn...

Cheers,

Pete

"Pete" <escape2music@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:vjaaies7n3uffc@corp.supernews.com...
> > About one month ago I purchased a 2003 Accord V6 with navigation, which
> > means with every factory installed option available. So far I have not
> been
> > impressed by the supposedly amazing level of quality Honda is reputed to
> > provide.
>
> Stephen Bigelow, George Macdonald, are you reading this? Not sure if you
> can chalk it up to the "Most Reliable" thread we had here 2 days ago, but
it
> certainly speaks of quality of today's Hondas. The quality of my '00
Accord
> EX-V6 was just as bad. Air leaks, water leaks, squeaks and sunroof
rattles,
> pulsating/dimming dashboard lights, unevenly aligned cabin trim pieces,
> vibrating outside mirrors. Certainly not what I was expecting after
hearing
> about the great Honda "quality."

apparently you noticed none of that on your test drive. you almost make it
sound like it was built by ford.
>
> But as I mentioned before, all makers turn out a certain number of
lemons -
> quality control is not 100% perfect. I suppose I just had bad luck. If
> only that car was fun to drive, I would have let those finish
imperfections
> slide. I guess I should have test-driven it more extensively. You live
and
> learn...

you bought a family car when you really wanted a sports car, so you niggle
all the petty details to justify why you hate it so much.

next time, buy what you *like*

Well said.

Why anyone would spend $27k on an Accord is beyond me. For that price you
could get something much more refined.

"SoCalMike" <mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Pete" <escape2music@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:bh3duf$eul$1@news.onet.pl...
> >
> > "John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:vjaaies7n3uffc@corp.supernews.com...
> > > About one month ago I purchased a 2003 Accord V6 with navigation,
which
> > > means with every factory installed option available. So far I have
not
> > been
> > > impressed by the supposedly amazing level of quality Honda is reputed
to
> > > provide.
> >
> > Stephen Bigelow, George Macdonald, are you reading this? Not sure if
you
> > can chalk it up to the "Most Reliable" thread we had here 2 days ago,
but
> it
> > certainly speaks of quality of today's Hondas. The quality of my '00
> Accord
> > EX-V6 was just as bad. Air leaks, water leaks, squeaks and sunroof
> rattles,
> > pulsating/dimming dashboard lights, unevenly aligned cabin trim pieces,
> > vibrating outside mirrors. Certainly not what I was expecting after
> hearing
> > about the great Honda "quality."
>
> apparently you noticed none of that on your test drive. you almost make it
> sound like it was built by ford.
> >
> > But as I mentioned before, all makers turn out a certain number of
> lemons -
> > quality control is not 100% perfect. I suppose I just had bad luck. If
> > only that car was fun to drive, I would have let those finish
> imperfections
> > slide. I guess I should have test-driven it more extensively. You live
> and
> > learn...
>
> you bought a family car when you really wanted a sports car, so you
niggle
> all the petty details to justify why you hate it so much.
>
> next time, buy what you *like*
>
>

On Sat, 9 Aug 2003 20:18:40 +0200, "Pete" <escape2music@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>"John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:vjaaies7n3uffc@corp.supernews.com...
>> About one month ago I purchased a 2003 Accord V6 with navigation, which
>> means with every factory installed option available. So far I have not
>been
>> impressed by the supposedly amazing level of quality Honda is reputed to
>> provide.
>
>Stephen Bigelow, George Macdonald, are you reading this? Not sure if you
>can chalk it up to the "Most Reliable" thread we had here 2 days ago, but it
>certainly speaks of quality of today's Hondas.

It may speak to the quality of one Accord or maybe a batch of them but you
make it sound like it applies to all of them. Obviously there are things
which need to be addressed here with this particular car. Possibly Honda
needs to be a bit more ruthless in enforcing QA on its OE suppliers or
consider changing them.

> The quality of my '00 Accord
>EX-V6 was just as bad. Air leaks, water leaks, squeaks and sunroof rattles,
>pulsating/dimming dashboard lights, unevenly aligned cabin trim pieces,
>vibrating outside mirrors. Certainly not what I was expecting after hearing
>about the great Honda "quality."

As already noted, not my experience with our '00 Accord Coupe I4/MT - none
of the above.<shrug>

>But as I mentioned before, all makers turn out a certain number of lemons -
>quality control is not 100% perfect. I suppose I just had bad luck. If
>only that car was fun to drive, I would have let those finish imperfections
>slide. I guess I should have test-driven it more extensively. You live and
>learn...

In the case of the '03 Accord, interesting to note that this is the first
Honda designed entirely by an American team. I wonder where they worked
before joining Honda? Maybe they missed out on the Japan trip
indoctrination.:-)

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??